This is the spot to continue your comments regarding chemtrails and other information of interest.
Click HERE to see the chemtrail pictures taken by “Ursa Major” – very good work documenting the obvious chemical spraying.
Here is a recent YouTube clip posted by some outraged Oregon residents as their tiny town gets saturation sprayed (thanks to Stef for the link):
Another regular commentator here that goes by “Dude” has created a detailed document that he believes explains the reason for chemtrails. His theories may be controversial, but he has done a lot of research and I will post the link here so that those of you that want to find it easily can do so. The link to Dude’s article:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16612974/War-News
Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 10, 2009 at 8:05 am
Thanks there, Dad, for setting us up with another room to play in.
Greatly appreciate your comments and observations as well as Clark’s. I read everyone’s, well, almost everyone’s comments, with great relish and profound interest.
Yeah, and Tarpley sends me into hysterics with his euphemisms — “Venetians,” my eye!
I’ve been a frequent visitor to Makow’s site, which I consider one of the finest, most honestly “deep-digging” out there, next to yours, naturally.
It may be all this flat “white sky” shit makes us ever more famished for unobstructed views of the truth, eh?
Hope my playpals will find their way…
Muchas Gracias, pater.
911Truth…
June 10, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I get more satisfaction in exposing chemtrails to those who have never seen them by pointing them out to perfect strangers in the real world. It’s prolly easier for me to point out the great big white jets as they are headed in a direction over central south British Columbia where we are the last bastion of civilization and the jets are headed for “nowhere” as there are no cities and certainly no airports in the direction that some think these passenger jets are heading.
Celline: Let me remind you that Genesis says God put a limit on the life of mankind and that limit is 120 years. My point here, is that the assault by evil on mankind is an assault of one cell at a time. We are in a time where the attacks coming our way facilitate the big business fascists and big government where we wear out after serving as slaves to big corporations. Look at the purveyors of death by a thousand cuts. Sun Moon owns Crest toothpaste and of course we think nothing of brushing our teeth with flouride not realizing that flouride is one of the most aggressive chemicals in the periodic table and you don’t need to swallow it for it to be absorbed and concentrated in our brains.
Chlorine levels in our drinking water are second only to flouride. Most pesticides in our food are chlorine/flourine based.
De-natured food that has the nutrients stripped out aka white flour, white sugar, then bleached, takes out the value and adds a toxic effect to junk food that is an attack against the temple.
These attacks against wholesome food including the pasteurization of milk and all dairy products is not accidental.
Vaccines and amalgm fillings further the destruction of our brain functions and the effect on mankind is obvious.
June 10, 2009 at 12:43 pm
@eric, I didn’t know that there was a limit of 120yrs to peoples lifespan. I watched a PBS show(s) called Nano-technology, The Power of Small, the pannel of experts and doctors were discussing the abilities and future potential for nano-technology. They focused heavily on the ability to prolong life, to 150-200 years, without your consent I might add. They also discussed the gold-tipped nano-tech you all were talking about before. As well as changing the moods of people- using nano-tech.
Do the jets fly low where you’re at? They are always flying very high here, but I wondered if they were still flying low anywhere.
There is a bit of a clearing up going on today, a bit of blue sky, they are still lining the sky heavily above me. I remember when I first started watching the sky, there were occassional breaks in their appearance. I can’t remember the last time there was a break in activity.
Just to have it on this page,
(( CAN ANYONE SEE THEIR SOUTHERN SKY? ANYONE? ))
June 10, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Genesis 6 verses 1 and 2 state:
“Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.”
Commentary: We find there that the “sons of God” took wives from the “daughters of men.”
Verse 3,
“Then the Lord said, ‘My spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty (120) years.’ ”
If anything, nano-technology is already being used to track us using satellites and to modify our DNA.
June 10, 2009 at 1:05 pm
PSFT- as if on cue, I looked out my window just now and there is a huge streak laying above and across my house, lower than any I’ve ever seen before.
Good post eric, I never looked at the “sons of God” in Genesis with this perspective before.
I’m in information overload. I got nuthin left to say.
June 10, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Well, I found my way here, too.
Clark, today I certainly can’t see my southern sky (or any other direction, for that matter).
Where I am we usually have temperatures of around 30 degrees Celsius at this time of year. But this far June has been very cold, today it is only 15 degrees Celsius.
I saw low flying jets when traveling last week. I took a picture of one flying directly overhead the soccer field where I was watching those young cousins play soccer. It was spraying a thick white plume, and NOBODY took notice but me.
Celline, to post a link you simply do what you do when sending me links. You copy them and paste them in here. When you paste them, they are not links. But when you click on ’submit comment’ they are automatically turned into functioning links.
Foundingfather, I followed your recent links, and found the information fascinating (even though much of it I had found out through my own research already).
Many people get extremely angry when you suggest that Catholics aren’t true Christians. My mother-in-law flipped out at me last month when I said that, and wouldn’t talk to me after that (which isn’t that unusual, she has hated me ever since I married her son 30 years ago).
My pastor is an ex-Catholic, who has converted some of his brothers, but his parents are still holding out. It is very hard to leave the Catholic church. And it is hardest for those who truly believe they are born-again Christians already.
I am called ‘racist’ and ‘prejudiced’ when I say things like Catholics aren’t really Christians, or Islam is an evil religion, or the world is run by a Zionist elite.
I am considered insane if I say things like, “911 was an insider job” and “We are being systematically poisoned by chemtrails” etc.
Most people are just sheeple, and waking them up is almost impossible.
A friend has forwarded me this e-mail from a good friend of his in Vancouver which she sent to him on June 8th:
“Hey All
Just want to report from Vancouver Canada. There is a very strange mix in the chemtrails today. In all my 10+ years of daily keeping track on all levels I have never felt this one before.
When I left the house this morning I noticed that instead of the usual milky white (chem) sky–there was a mist that went from cloud level to the ground—just a mist —although it was hot and morning mist should have long been gone.
I have a long bus ride to the university where i study–so I usually do my reading on the way up on the bus—but today I found I couldn’t focus my eyes (physically) It was very strange–I strained and I strained but could hardly get any reading done.
In class I found it difficult to stay awake—though it was only a two hour class.
Finally I get home thinking–well maybe I’m just overtired–but happened to glance in the mirror in the bathroom—and holy moly—my pupils were totally dilated—haven’t seen that since the sixties…no wonder I couldn’t focus….
Anyway—a new chemtrail mix in this neck of the woods as far as I can tell….
Peace and Love………. (I won’t put her name)”
It appears that the good people of Vancouver were all drugged that day. Very scary.
So, if you see this kind of mist, you may consider wearing a gas mask. I don’t own one yet, but will consider buying one.
June 10, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I told you we’d have 2-3 days rain and cool temps, didn’t I?
We are now Day 2. Cool, totally grey and a misty rain. I should be a weatherforecaster…I could do the chemtrail weather forecast.
Depending on the trails spread today you’ll get –
I’ve seen both, low-flying and high. Seems those high-flyers leave the twin trails, the thin ones, and are doing the job of bleaching the sky in no time at all.
I never see anything but white, Clark, when I look in any direction down towards the horizon and it’s been this way for quite some time.
How do we KNOW the hologram is God’s?
Isn’t Lucifer the great liar, the great deceiver?
Just asking.
And thanks to Founding for the Oath’s links. Insane. Those oafs are insane.
Thanks all,
911etc.
June 10, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Now.. I found it too ;o) FF had to give me the link, he’s just so very nice.
I have something I would like for you to Google” The Almanac of Evil ”
Oher than that.. Eric.. NO, I never see the southern sky, it always is white out !
Can someone explain please, what u mean with Hologram? I totally missed this one. Uschi u are so sweet to explain to me about linking.. but: The concept of Cut and Paste escapes me, I have no clue how to do it. On the news just now: What’s going on right now, in WA w. the Holocaust-museum???? Great upset over something.
We are overcast and cold today.. can’t see a thing.
I looked up everything that was suggested on the “old” blog.. Russo etc.. and that’s where I found: The Almanac of Evil !
I have not yet seen low-flying jets… Thank all.. for explaining things to me, the ones I don’t understand. Uschi’s blogs, I understand perfectly.
June 10, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Celline, this is what you do when linking:
You go to the page you want to link to. You right-click on the address up in the address bar. You choose ‘copy’. Then you come here, write in the comment box what you want to say. When you are ready to insert your link. you make sure the marker is where you want it (you know, the line that shows where you are), you right-click, then click on ‘paste’, and the url will appear.
And as I said before, even though it isn’t a link at that point, it will be turned into one when you submit your comment.
June 10, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Hey Celline here’s your link
http://arcticbeacon.com/books/Almanac_of_Evil.pdf
I know your bible says that you should not add or detract from the bible. My experience is this. The word swan appears twice in the bible. Why? The fact is King James changed the bible from gier eagle which is now extinct to swan which is a common bird in England where the gier eagle is not.
June 10, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Celline..What is your point? Bashing the Catholic church by bashing Paul seems to me to contradict your blind obedience to a book.
June 10, 2009 at 5:11 pm
am not ” bashing” anything.. am spreading the Truth where ever I find it.
Which link, or whatever are u talking about ? Or do u mean The Almanac of Evil? Well, I did not make this up u know…. look at the source who opens up a can of worms there….t’wasen’t me…
June 10, 2009 at 5:20 pm
For Ursa:
“Holography (from the Greek, ὅλος-hólos whole + γραφή-grafē writing, drawing) is a technique that allows the light scattered from an object to be recorded and later reconstructed so that it appears as if the object is in the same position relative to the recording medium as it was when recorded. The image changes as the position and orientation of the viewing system changes in exactly the same way as if the object were still present, thus making the recorded image (hologram) appear three dimensional.”
You can read the rest on Wikipedia if you like.
Hope this helps…or were you referring to the universe= hologram thing?
Thanks Eric. Didn’t know that.
June 10, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Sorry, meant Celline.
June 10, 2009 at 5:30 pm
“Dr Alberto Rivera” is what I meant to blog..
if I made a terrible mistake, please forgive me, the above one.. is the one.
June 10, 2009 at 5:38 pm
What’s happening at the holohaux museum is that the jews are going into their “sacrificial lamb” act to quell the highly justifiable antipathy for them from every quarter.
Here’s the good Rabbi Eli Ravage explaining what needs be done:
“We may have to repeat the grim days of World War II, when we were forced to let the Hitlerite bands sacrifice some of our people, in order that we may have adequate documentation and witnesses to legally justify our trial and execution of the leaders of America and Russia as war criminals, after we have dictated the peace…For sacrifice has always been the watchword or our people.”
Get it?
911TruthNOW
June 10, 2009 at 8:02 pm
This ” Almanac ” link was a mistake.. PLEASE guys forgive me.. I blogged the wrong thing.. I asked FF to delete the blogs where I mentioned this terribly bad one. All I can do, is apologize…
June 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Late afternoon, sun peeking through the blanket of “clouds” and what do we see: The sky-spiders at it again with a vengeance.
Where does it say, or rather does it say, in the Bible, or any of those other ancient texts why some of us will notice or see or question while the rest don’t/won’t?
Does anyone else here wonder why those chemtrails, that are perfectly noticeable to us, seem invisible to others?
Aside from “they-are-dumb-as-dirt morons,” which cannot be denied, don’t you wonder why many refuse to even listen?
Some “Book” must prophecy that in the endtimes only a fraction of the population(s) will be aware that all is not as it should be?
I’m hoping one of you, or all you of you, might provide an answer to my query.
I don’t recall asking before. Anyway, I don’t recall the answer, if there was one.
Thanks.
June 10, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Stef, I don’t know how many Jews Hitler has killed. I don’t care if it was one million or six million. The fact is that he wanted to exterminate them. It is true that the Zionists, who are part of the Illuminati and the bankers that control the world are evil. But as Truth stated, those people are NOT real Jews. Those people, and the ones now running Israel, are evil and don’t care about the common, ordinary Jews.
That does NOT make all Jews evil. Just like looking at the evil Americans/Canadians in our governments doesn’t mean ALL Americans and Canadians are evil people! Or saying that because the Nazis were evil means that all Germans are evil. I am one of those Germans (born after the war) and Celline (born before the war started) another.
By the way, that the Pope was part of the Hitler Youth proves nothing about him at all. I do believe that the Pope is evil. But I don’t believe that it has anything to do with him being in the Hitler Youth. He had no choice, just as most kids in those times had no choice.
Any kid not being in the Hitler Youth was suspect, and so was his family. Not conforming could mean death, prison or concentration camp.
My father was in the Hitler Youth, and my mother in the equivalent of it for girls. Both were forced, and I do believe my mother was also brainwashed (it is easy to brainwash children). My dad merely liked being taught to fly glider airplanes. He was one of the most harmless people I’ve ever known.
Fortunately my father was smart enough to know that he would never be able to shoot anybody. He told me that he was unable to look at the ‘enemy’ as an enemy, because what had he ever done to him? So, if he would have found himself face to face with an enemy, he’d be dead, because he wouldn’t have been able to pull the trigger.
Therefore, he managed to stay out of the front lines by being a radio operator, and ‘getting lost behind the lines’ on purpose. In the end he was caught by the Russians and put into a prisoner of war camp in Siberia. Fortunately, they needed to exchange 1000 prisoners, and because he had contracted tuberculosis, he was sent home instead of into the mines, which likely saved his life.
Anyway, I guess that got long-winded. I am just trying to make you understand that NOT all Hitler Youth boys/girls were actually Nazis, nor were all the soldiers. If you refused to be a soldier, you’d be shot on the spot. If you refused to be in the Hitler Youth, you were persecuted, as was your family. You couldn’t win.
June 10, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Ursa: You don’t know how many jews Hitler had killed?
Are you kidding me? You are the single, solitary person over the age of three on this planet who doesn’t “know” he killed 6 million!
Exactly 6 million, not one more, not one less, as holohaux investigators like to say. ‘Course the jews themselves are beginning to clip and prune here and there, under the radar, so to speak.
He wanted to exterminate them? You don’t know how many were killed? A figure any 7 year-old, practically anywhere in the world, has been indoctrinated to spout: 6 million!
And yet you pretend to know what Hitler wanted to do with them?
Here’s a very funny essay on the holocaust question. You really, really need to read it!
“THE HOLOCAUST FOR DUMMIES” on the INCOGMAN site.
Silly woman.
Ciao!
June 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Stef, you make me laugh. The fact is, that the only reason everybody ‘knows’ that Hitler killed six million Jews is, that we were all taught it is so.
‘Mein Kampf’ says very clearly that all Jews are to be exterminated, the ‘end goal’. But as for how many they managed to kill, I personally can’t possibly know.
I DO know he killed many. There are plenty of eye witnesses to attest to that fact. There are enough mass graves to prove it. They found lots of them in the concentration camps near death when they ‘liberated’ Germany (after first killing plenty of women, old people and young kids by bombing Dresden and Hamburg to rubble, as all boys and young men over 14 were all sent to the front to be killed rather than surrender).
Because we were obviously NOT taught the truth and all the facts in school in Germany, I have done a lot of research on the second world war in these past 31 years here in Canada. I read many books before we had the Internet, and have read much since we got the Internet.
Research is my hobby. If I am left to my own devices, that is all I do. Still, I am unable to know exactly how many Jews Hitler killed. I am not sure anybody really knows or wants to know.
June 10, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Hi Ursa,
Thanks for the interesting comment. We Americans do not often hear how things were in Nazi Germany from the ordinary German citizen’s perspective. I agree that just because Ratzinger was in the Hitler Youth it does not automatically make him a Nazi. What is funny is the many contradictory statements the Vatican has made which range from (as you said) “Yes he was in the Hitler Youth but he didn’t have a choice” to “No absolutely not….he was never in the Hitler Youth!” The outright denial is ridiculous because there are pictures of him in uniform.
Speaking of Hitler Youth…have any of you seen the new “Americorps” Paramilitary Propaganda Ad? Here it is on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4zqXKMJdBA
When you watch it, notice the color of their uniform jackets. They are Red & Black. Hmmmmm…now where else have we seen Red & Black colors used? (Hint: Celline and Ursa being from Germany ought to guess this one right away!)
Celline, I really do not want to get into the habit of “cleaning-up” mistaken posts. You posted the wrong link, you have apologized to everyone and let them know that was NOT the link you meant to post. That is fine. We all make mistakes. Just move on. Nobody is going to hold that against you.
Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 10, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Fact remains, Ursa, that what we were taught is exactly what the jews still maintain, regardless how much proof and evidence is brought to light, and they are holding it against us.
There were eyewitnesses! Oy vey!
Forget about it. I don’t have the time or the patience to discuss this with you.
Perhaps, you were in Germany at the time, but you could have been in outer space for all your blather.
No disrespect.
Agh!
June 10, 2009 at 9:56 pm
And when did you ever read “Mein Kampf?”
Come on! You’re just parotting what you’ve heard, what you’ve been told.
Sorry, bit of run-on there.
June 10, 2009 at 10:19 pm
@Stef : Even though I just made a terrible mistake and THANK you FF for understanding.. u are the the Best ;o)
Inspite of my mistake Steff, I feel justified to be upset w. you.
How dare you call U’s important imput Blather ? This is beyond obnoxious.
U has given the FACTS, I can testify to this, because all she ” blathered” was the truth, I should know !
And.. she did say.. she does not know, how many jews were killed, neither do I.
All we know is what they are telling us almost daily.
What upsets me about this, is that all the others who were tortured and killed by Hitler, the Poles, the german populous in general… the French.. all of Europe.. and all over the world where he could reach.
What about all those Stalin and Lenin, and Oh Dear, all those milliions catholocism killed.. all those get no mention.. yet the jews do. At this, I get angry too. Bottomline is money here. I understand this.
But to call U’s very correct research” Blather ” is NOT OK w. me, it’s obnoxious and rude. You owe her an apology, Big Time.
June 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Apology? Wait for it…wait for it…I feel one coming…naw! just a fart.
Listen, you’re okay Celline. I’ve responded to your questions and I’ve been civil in my replies but, please, mind your own business.
If I say Ursa is blathering, then she is.
You’re right re. only the jews ever get mentionned, and mentionned, and mentionnned ad nauseum.
It’s of no consequence to me whether you and Ursa were both in Germany at the time, were twins separated at birth, knew Hitler personally or even intimately…both of you, regarding Hitler and the rest of that fantastical story, are just mouthing nonsense.
Fight your own battles, Celline, and let others do likewise. Okay?
Odd. For some reason the comedy, “The Producers” comes to mind.
“Springtime for Hitler and Germany…” Funny shit that.
See ya!
June 10, 2009 at 11:18 pm
This Hitler debate is interesting. I don’t suppose any of you know that he wrote a second book?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8868095/Zweites-Buch-Secret-Book-The-Second-Book-of-Adolf-Hitler
June 10, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Thanks Ericswan. I hope this isn’t another of your “Hitler lived to be 114 years old” gags.
I have some serious reading to do.
I’ll be back.
911…
June 11, 2009 at 12:50 am
Hitler passed away on Jan. 14, 2004. His alias was William Crookes and passed away at the age of 114.
http://proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm
No, I wasn’t pulling your leg.
June 11, 2009 at 1:06 am
Stef, I could be outright rude and call some of what you say blathering, and sometimes think so, but have restrained myself. For the very reason that normally I am not a rude person, but rather respect other people’s opinion, even if it differs from mine. I wished you were as considerate.
I thought I made it clear that I was NOT around during Hitler’s time, since I was born in 1953, several years after the war. My parents lived through the Hitler years and the war in their youth. Meaning that I only know what I have been told, and what I have read.
And yes, I have read credible eye witness accounts. I talked to people who were there. And I had to live in poverty during my growing up years thanks to what happened to my parents and Hamburg, where I grew up, being almost completely destroyed during the war.
Who are you that you should play the high and mighty and discredit what I am saying?
June 11, 2009 at 1:20 am
@ U, don’t bother, not worth it. There’s no herb growing anywhere that cures ignorance and low IQ.
June 11, 2009 at 1:35 am
Foundingfather, those jackets remind me immediately of the jacket I wore (and my children did) when I was part of St. John Ambulance. Because they look very much like that.
Those young people also wear beige pants, not black or brown ones (but we wore black ones in St. John Ambulance).
I don’t know enough of that ‘City Year’ thing to really have an opinion. But it doesn’t appear to be para-military, but rather is about helping out in the community, especially with kids.
Many young people are unsure of what they want to do right out of high school. Taking a year to do something worthwhile while figuring out what to do next seems like a sensible thing to do. As long as it isn’t forced on all young people but a choice, I don’t see a problem.
I do have a problem with the Canadian system that forces high school students to do 40 hours of community work in order to be allowed to graduate from high school, though. Not because kids helping in the community is a bad idea, but because they are forced to do it.
I guess I just hate the public school system. It has never been about education, but has always been about brainwashing and making kids conform. Public schools really are prisons for kids. They don’t have a choice, as they are dragged to school by police if they decide they don’t want to go.
Here in Canada they just decided this year that now kids are forced to attend school until they are 18, not just 16. Personally, I wished they could do what young people did a long time ago, before forced schooling. Once they had learned the basics needed (reading, writing, arithmetic) , they’d specialize in what they wanted to do for a living. Either university or an apprenticeship, or just work.
In those days, the literacy rate in North America was 98%. Now the rate of functional illiteracy is getting worse and worse.
More and more people are homeschooling (I used to, my oldest daughter is doing it, and my son’s kids will be homeschooled, to escape the brainwashing of the public schools). But I wonder how long it will be before it is outlawed in North America, just as it is in Europe.
June 11, 2009 at 2:04 am
Hello Ursa,
I guess the implications of that video are clearer to me because I have seen Obama call for a “Domestic Security Force” as big as the military:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak
And I have seen Obama Jugend stomping around in a very militaristic way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE
And then I see the commercial for the “Year of Change” corp (or whatever they are calling it) wearing Red and Black jackets over white shirts when strangely enough, Red, Black and White were the colors of the Nazi flag? Well it is more than a little creepy to me. I do not believe anything good will come from that program, which they are trying to market as just an “educational year” of civic service for youth. In reality a group like that is a precursor of tyranny.
Regarding public education…….you are quite correct. It is nothing more than calculated dumbing down and brainwashing.
But don’t take my opinion. Here are some experts that know very well what “Public Education” is all about:
Charlotte Iserbyt – Former education Secretary under Reagan and author of the FREE e-book “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” which is available here:
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
And John Taylor Gatto – former NY “Teacher of the Year”
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/
Here is a brief video of John Taylor Gatto discussing modern education (only 9 minutes long and WELL WORTH WATCHING!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ogCc8ObiwQ
The “youth groups” the Obama Administration is now actively forming are nothing more than “Public Education” programs on steroids. The STATE is molding them for its own purpose. That purpose is not a benevolent one I assure you.
Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 11, 2009 at 2:16 am
Yes, of course, ’tis I, Celline, have a low IQ because I don’t bray the same bs you and your soul-sister do.
“[...] they’d specialize in what they wanted to do for a living. Either university or an apprenticeship, or just work” and therein lies the demonic brilliance of the jew mind. I never expected you sanctimonious broads to understand.
Specialize. Globalize. Compartmentalize: khazar talmudic “jews” have instilled “lies” aplenty ‘in our every day speech ’cause that’s what their demonic Torah commands them do. Confuse and distract and lie when they do “business” with the goyim.
That means us, you dumb twats. Us, as in you and me and every non-jew– goyim. Means cattle. You wouldn’t know because you broads are, in fact, as dumb as cattle. You, and your unspeakeably ignorant ilk, are proof positive the jew is right.
Ask your dear Ursa to explain it to you Celline, if she can, that is.
911Truth etc.
June 11, 2009 at 2:35 am
In passing, Ursa, I’ve only rarely, if ever, addressed myself directly to you and if I have, then it must have been “under the influence” and I confess, I draw a blank.
So how can you, Ursa, even if you are over-extending every inefficient molecule in your pathetically feeble brain, accuse me of rudeness or of anything else?
STFU.
Silly woman. I repeat, silly woman.
June 11, 2009 at 2:36 am
*sigh*…..and we were all playing so nicely for a while……
Ladies……Stef…….I am not going to referee anything. You can flame away at each other. But it does not add to the quality of the discussion.
I think informing or ignoring is preferable to inciting and infighting.
I was just hoping we could keep the ambiance around here a bit higher than an episode of “The Jerry Springer Show.”
Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 11, 2009 at 2:49 am
Ah yes, Stefan (where in Europe did you hail from?), you sure have a problem. When you don’t like what you read you suddenly get very insulting. The true you is showing, which is not a very charming picture.
When I talk about specializing, I mean ‘doing what they want to do’. As in becoming an artist (and not needing to take math several times in a row when math is not what they are good at), or a mechanic (not needing to take French for that), or going to university if they want to become a doctor etc.
What the heck does that have to do with ‘Globalize, compartmentalize?’
I object to young people being imprisoned in a hated school when they could be doing better things with their lives than hanging out with other youth who are just as disillusioned with being forced to learn stuff they have no interest in. The only thing that breeds is discontent and youth gangs, since those kids have nothing worthwhile to do.
In response to being called a dumb twat I could think of some very pertinent choice insults for the likes of you, but as I said previously, I have more class than that, so will refrain from doing so (even though it WOULD give me some satisfaction).
Foundingfather, you have some good points when talking about the ‘year of choice’. Since it is Obama’s idea, I agree that it is probably not good (actually, I don’t know if he has any ideas of his own, as he is just a puppet). In fact, the Hitler Youth started out as just a fun kid’s club kind of thing, too, which developed into something much more sinister in the end.
I have read Gatto’s speeches and know he is speaking the truth. I have also done a lot of research on the ACLU and the early beginnings of public education when I contemplated homeschooling many years ago.
In fact, public education originated in Prussia. The general idea was to raise perfect, conforming soldiers for their armies, who would do whatever they were told without question.
When the American government saw how well it worked, they decided that it was exactly what was needed here to discourage individualism and to encourage conformity and to make sure kids thought and learned whatever the government wanted them to.
When my three older kids went to public school I was engaged in a constant battle with the schools over who controlled their minds. With the two youngest I decided I was sick of it and schooled them myself.
June 11, 2009 at 2:51 am
Stef, I shall henceforth ignore you. As for feebleminded, you should call yourself fortunate if your IQ would be as high as mine. I’ll leave it at that.
June 11, 2009 at 4:14 am
@stef, man, that was pretty bad, uncalled for and all that. Better to have said nothing. I suspect you’re being affected by the chemtrails (or you’re just short tempered). It does sometimes make a person abrasive, callous, combative, argumentative and down-right hostile, usually uncontrollably so. You often don’t know it’s affecting you, if you’re, “lucky” you’ll realize it afterwards. I’ve experienced it, and I’ve seen others experience it, as well as heard second hand reports of it. I guess that’s what’s headed my way, great. I hope I can avoid the bi-polar mimicking fallout somehow.
Did you see the photos of the Army’s new spy blimp? It’s not too hard to imagine an additional use for chemtrails is to hide a couple of those creeping above us doing their thing at 20,000′ but then again, why wouldn’t they just use their new and improved invisibility cloak? – I can’t believe I can say invisibility cloak in a serious conversation, that just floors me that it is so real and so true. This whole entire conversation is ridiculous, but the freaky part is, it all could very well be true and most of it is already proven to be true. I was a fan of the Twilight Zone, but I never wanted to be in an episode, where is the off button, or better yet, the rewind button, say 1980?
Such a cheery off-topic subject, the New Hitler-Obama Youth Groups. After the economy tanks and unemployment is 25% for awhile they will claim they can’t release them, it would be the mean thing to do, what with no jobs available, so douse those New Hitler-Obama Youth Groups with some aggression fumes and set ‘em loose on the population as inspectors, stopping every so often to build some freedom gates and bridges, or set ‘em up as palace guards, then maintain the whole lot for a couple of years which turns into twenty-five years, IF they could get their way. You know, for the children of the environment and all. Operator – stop the ride, I want off!
I got too many URL’s to read.
June 11, 2009 at 10:36 am
Good stuff Clark but 20,000 ft puts the blimps in the danger zone. I believe it’s 50,000 ft. which can only be seen with a telescope. You inquired about the height of chemtrail aircraft in my area in a previous post. My opinion is that they are above 35,000 ft and it is easy to photograph and visualize these rather large craft even at that elevation. Especially easy when they have a tail from horizon to horizon but those without trails, I mostly can hear before they are out of sight.
I think members of the group have brought up several points as it concerns the “dumbing down” process going on in public ed. It’s difficult for those way beyond the education system (including teachers) to discover the truth of the Jesuits and their systematic distortion and subsequent machinations of torture, sexual predation and racist distortions of their place in the sun.
Many here are still mostly unaware of the physics of gravity, magnetism, electricity and the interractions between these forces. This was intentional as Maxwell’s equations pointed out in the 1860’s that there is a flow of energy around a magnet that is at right angles to the north south pole or to those who need more information, a powerline gathers energy from the “ether” which explains why anyone standing under a large power transmission tower can light a flourescent bulb by extending same at arms length. Morgan, Westinghouse, Edison et al suppressed this free energy so that they could “sell” power to the masses. Energy should be free by now but those educated in the subject of electricity don’t know the truth.
The collapse of WTC at the speed of freefall is more disinformation meant to dumb down the public.
The chemistry and human interraction of chlorine, flourine, mercury, and rf from cell phones, transmission lines, cell towers, etc;, has been covered up so that the chemical electrical body we all have, is attacked and degraded constantly. Our need for trace minerals to supplement cell health is ignored.
June 11, 2009 at 11:29 am
Ladies, I apologize. Ditto Founding Father.
The vapours of war must have seeped into me yesterday. Clark, what you’ve written is perfect and correct, in every respect. I thank you.
Aside from the always informative content, I find your writing has a lovely tone and rhythm to it. It’s pleasing. Soothing too. And, at this juncture, we all need a little soothing, eh?
The horrifying possibility that the chems had affected my state of mind struck me right after my “episoody.”
Then I read your remarks, Clark. It’s a fact Chems (along with the plethora of other goodies they wield) can alter moods.
And it’s happened before. On the other hand, it could the actual sight of those bastards laying the trails irritates me to such a degree I take my ire out on those around me.
A friend related a similar experience. People explode with rage and then move on as nothing had happened. No rhyme or reason to it, she said. She’s aware of this and worries.
“Dousing [....] with aggression fumes,” could, indeed, set us at each other’s throats. Tweak the dosage and we’d do the dirty work of culling the population for our masters.
Obomba brain-washed youths, invisible blimps, the “greenies” and now this. One more thing to fret over.
“You’ve just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.”
Thanks again Clark.
Eric: I’m reading Hitler’s book. Thanks.
June 11, 2009 at 2:56 pm
wow, i went partying for a couple days and theres a book here to read. i completely understand stefs frustration with the ladies as celline and truth have offended me with their blind adherance to their programmed beliefs without evidence and in direct violation of the Bible they try to preach about. Some of em seem to be incredibly sucked into the dog-bone distractions too (palin, cruise, etc) and that really annoys me.
#1 America is the land God promised to Jacob, not the little shithole in the middle east. The Bible says that Abraham will be a father to MANY nations and Zion would have 2 sisters and the Israelites would be numbered like the stars. I am getting where I despise people who spout off about the Bible and have no clue whats in it. They are doing the work of Satan and most are completely oblivious to that fact.
#2 There is an herb that will help make you smarter and that is Hemp. and God said that it was good!!!
http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=2083
No one has seen their southern skies. WHY?????????????????????
probably this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm2kaCJvx6w
You all have less than 4 months before this war. Has anyone done ANYTHING at all to prepare?
Ill put it here again in case somebody falls, hits their head, gets some sense, and decides to read this (but i doubt it):
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6519605/WarNews
June 11, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Okay, Dude, so that you can’t say people don’t want to know what you are talking about, I read your document. And I mean all of it, every word.
That was a lot of work, to gather all that and write the comments. I have to give you that.
I don’t know if you are right or wrong. Because it is your interpretation of things. It is possible to interpret signs and writing in many different ways.
So, we will just have to wait and see what happens. Just in case, I will try to hoard water and food before October, especially if I see that things might really move towards war. I know it is possible.
I also know that you can explode a nuclear bomb way up high, and knock out all electricity in a huge area. Not even cars would run for weeks or months.
It is a fact that China practically owns the USA already, and that both China and Russia would love to take over America.
There is not a whole lot we can do, and I don’t believe my husband would listen anyway and prepare or move to a safer place. And neither would any of my children. I am so ill that without medication I would not live long. So, if everything is gone, and there is no more medicine, I won’t have to worry long, but will join my Lord Jesus in Heaven.
But thanks for trying to warn us here, I do appreciate it. It is all in God’s hands anyway. Anything that happens he allows to happen, and he can stop it if he wants to.
As for Nibiru…………. we will soon enough see if it is true or not. I don’t really believe it, but may be wrong. Obviously I don’t know everything (and neither do you, only God does).
June 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Sunny, early morning and afternoon partial chemtrails, diminishing throughout the day. Limited southern view.
Did you see this? A new cloud, so they say. Now you get to see what I’ve seen a lot of. I’ll have to read your comments above later.
Iowa woman’s photo sparks push for new cloud type
By MICHAEL J. CRUMB, Associated Press Writer
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090611/ap_on_re_us/us_new_cloud
“It looked like Armageddon,” said Wiggins, a paralegal and amateur photographer in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
June 11, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Clark, on the previous page I put a video and link to this ‘new’ cloud. Here it is again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5PfPMczLNk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1189877/The-cloud-Meteorologists-campaign-classify-unique-Asperatus-clouds-seen-world.html
I commented there. But it said that because they get thousands of comments each day, it could take a while for comments to appear, since they all have to be first approved by a moderator.
Of course, I know that mine will NEVER appear, since I am otherwise going to shatter their pretty picture of this ‘cool’ new cloud. But maybe the moderator will wake up and do some research.
Here the sky was totally obliterated this morning, completely white. But when I looked closer, I could sort of see the sun through this thick cover, and a new chemtrail right next to the sun and some ripples.
In the meantime it is raining here (here being north of Toronto, Ontario, Canada).
June 11, 2009 at 8:12 pm
all is getting worse, it is cold and the sky is covered with : a new kind of ” clouds” i don’t know how to discribe. It looks like Cream of wheat.. that lumped while you were cooking it. Yes, lumpy cream of wheat.
All over, it’s new, except the velcros here and there. The South is totally on white out, as usual. This is no longer Southern Cal.. this is sick.
The weatherman sais:” These are leftovers from a monsoon in the tropics, that moved our way”. Lies Lies Lies.
June 11, 2009 at 8:25 pm
I posted to that cloud page a week ago. Still no sign of chemtrails in any comments.
Dude..Looked at your Oct. 9, 2009 piece. It’s been more than a week for you to figure out how to link it here. That’s progress. As for your prognostications, the fall of 2009 is on the radar for many similar events. Personally, I think you should expand on why you see this specific date in the scriptures you posted. All I’m getting is a problem in the fall and that no certain year is indicated. Try to respond to a post instead of barrelling ahead with your program. I’m listening.
June 11, 2009 at 8:40 pm
When one is sweating heavily and not eating salty food, salt deficiency symptoms especially cramping are likely to develop within a few days. To prevent this, 6 or 8 grams of salt (about 1/4 oz, or 1/2 tablespoon) should be consumed daily in food and drink. If little or no food is eaten, this small daily salt ration should be added to drinking water. Under hot conditions, a little salt makes water taste better.
CARRYING WATER
Most families have only a few large containers that could be used for carrying water to a shelter and storing it in adequate amounts for several weeks. Polyethylene trash bags make practical expedient water containers when used as waterproof liners inside smaller fabric bags or pillowcases. (Plastic bags labeled a& being treated with insecticides or odor-controlling chemicals should not be used.) Figure 8.1 shows a teenage boy carrying over 10 gallons (more than 80 pounds) of water, well balanced front and back for efficient packing. Each of his two burlap bags is lined with two 20-gallon polyethylene trash bags, one inside the other. (To avoid possible pinhole leakage it is best to put one waterproof bag inside another.)
To close a plastic bag of water so that hardly any will leak out, first spread the top of the bag until the two inner sides of the opening are together. Then fold in the center so that the folded opening is 4 thicknesses, and smooth (see Fig. 8.2). Continue smoothly folding in the middle until the whole folded-up opening is only about 1-1/2 inches wide. Then fold the top of the bag over on itself so the folded-up opening points down. With a strip of cloth or a soft cord, bind and tie the folded-over part with a bow knot.
June 11, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Bought the telescope today. Fair-sized, for star gazing mainly, sturdy stand, three lenses (for now) and a few other knick-knacks. A little over 600$. My bro decided overnight and gave the go-ahead and there it stands in MY living room, proud as a peacock.
I know Dude, it’s not N ever A S traight A nswer, but it’ll do. Since we only have 4 months and counting, I’ll see what I may with what I can. Thanks again for the info on telescopes. It was very helpful in making our choice.
No way to see anything but clouds, cloud coverage in every direction resulting from their frenzied cheming all day yesterday.
That’s okay. I won’t let it get me down. There’s bound to be a few hours of sky at some point and I’ll be at the ready.
I’m a neophyte at this…I’ll learn.
Thanks Eric for your excellent tips. Keep ‘em comin’
June 11, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Ursa, thank you and i hope your savings will help you. yes, nukes will eliminate pretty much all electronics. College didnt so much teach me things but taught me how much there is that i will never know. I do know there will be a big war here and Nibiru will come and end it.
eric: i didnt write an oct 9, 2009 piece. i said the war will be on 10-10-09 and I didnt say it, Ezekiel said it. As far as pasting URLS, thats not new to me and Ive pasted a few. as for the date thing…..again, its in my document….several references to the date and time of year and about it being 2 years before the great earthquake are near the end of it. And thats a good idea for carrying water. For storage, you might want to consider tanks from 1000-10000 gal. there are a lot of tanks for a lot of things….the bigger the better and underground the best. we require a lot of water to survive too and we will need 3 years of it at least.
June 11, 2009 at 11:42 pm
stef: one cool thing to do is take a pic of the moon up close making sure you get the border thats in the sunlight. You will be able to see a blue ring around it, indicating an atmosphere. another great one from nasa bites the dust! You can tape a digital camera to the eyepiece and use the zoom to fit pic to the image in the eyepiece.
youre not going to see Nibiru though. They arent going to let you. Im working on a plan to fly over them now but dont know whats gonna come of it.
so what did you get?
June 11, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Dude: Have you found an answer to my question about Biblical or ancient texts announcing or suggesting or hinting there would be some sort of great divide between the “aware” and the walking-dead in the endtimes?
From what I’ve read of your comments you best can answer that, or any other, Biblical question.
Thanks.
911…
June 11, 2009 at 11:58 pm
stef: i havent read anything suggesting that so far. the bible says “they will believe lies” and several variants of that. it also says numerous times that we are a stiffnecked people and others would believe where we would not.
one prophecy, mother shipton maybe, talked about the enlightened ones returning to teach us how to be spiritual, which would fit with Gods angels returning, gathering us from the nations and bringing us home to america. theres a ton of stuff I havent read yet and its summer and im trying to get in some fun since its the last summer.
What scope did you get?
June 12, 2009 at 12:02 am
I forgot last time I posted. Stef, apology accepted.
Almost everything I learned and know I taught myself AFTER I was done school. I hated school, I was bored to tears, was bullied to death and wanted to desperately get away and learn what I wanted to learn, not the junk they decided I should learn.
School is prison for kids. I can’t understand how some kids actually like it. I didn’t from day one all the way to the end. Maybe it is because I don’t conform. Ever. Never have and never will. Of course, it has always gotten me into trouble, because people expect you to conform or else.
Dude, I have always wondered what it was Ezekiel saw in his vision. Your explanation is the first one I’ve read that seems to actually make sense. Before I was always told that I ‘just have to believe’. But I can’t do that without a reasonable explanation! Normally there are always logical answers somewhere to everything the Bible says, but this one has been bugging me for a very long time.
I hate it when people tell me to just go by faith. Paul himself says to ‘question everything’, so as not to fall for false teachings. It is right and good to question and to look for answers. When I get a reasonable answer it strengthens my faith rather than weakening it.
June 12, 2009 at 12:02 am
Again, our writing overlaps.
Dude, it’s the brand name of the store. They sell binoculors and microscopes too. I’d call it a no-name brand, but all the telescopes, from 100$ up to
12,000$, were made in China. Names like Celestron etc.
Busy store. Lots of people buying telescopes. Makes you wonder, or maybe not.
Magnana amigo.
June 12, 2009 at 12:31 am
stef: what kind then? reflector, refractor? size? magnification? base? you can walk in a store and buy a 12 grand telescope? we dont have stores like that.
Ursa: you sound exactly like me at school. i didnt stay at any one of them very long until college then they couldnt get me to leave hardly, haha. i homeschool too as i wouldnt put up with their crap way back when, i know im not gonna make my kid put up with the prison camps they have now. Yea, whenever somebody tells you you must believe something, and especially when they have no supporting evidence, thats the time really look at it and start questioning (and thinking).
June 12, 2009 at 12:31 am
@Dude, one thing in the Bible I do know is there, “be of good cheer.”
Have some patience too.
Yes, Some of em seem to be incredibly sucked into the dog-bone distractions… Partly from plain old human nature. But they are certainly not as bad as the people who are clueless and hostile.
You and I, no one knows if they will be saved or not, so don’t make that judgment. You sound like your a bit chemtrail fallout affected too. [It wore off, it’s noticeable in your later posts.] Those girls, or even I, may or may not be doing bad, but compared to the really bad people in this world, I’d say they were doing good, only God knows. Even if they did a little bad, they might still be a-ok in Gods eyes – using as an example – those two criminals who were on either side of Jesus on the cross. I can, however; relate to your frustration.
The jets are using the new stuff quite a bit. They almost look like regular contrails now, almost.
@eric, thanks for mentioning the altitude and stuff. That electrical/ether bit was really fascinating,
xClouds created by chemtrails, they float down below the jets to about 20,000′ – 15,000’? (just from eye-balling the distance from the jets, if the jets are at 40,000‘) perfect cover for a blimp.
Someone mentioned collecting samples earlier, another idea to do so is with a model rocket, maybe?
My southern sky wound up being totally clouded over.
If I’m meant to die from the sword of God, there’s nothing I can do about that. How would one prepare? Pray and hope. Keep in mind also, the story of the guy who survived after being near ground zero (twice) when the US dropped atomic bombs on Japan. Sure, nuclear bombs are more destructive nowadays, but, the guy survived and so did many others. But, of course if the Bible says everyone will die, then they will die. But I forget, was it die/be destroyed, or be struck by the sword? If you’re struck by the sword, and you say the Bible says a sword = war, then it is possible to survive being struck by the sword. No? Or was it perish by the sword? In which case, the words from another I will post:
“while I agree with you that the US will soon descend into chaos and revolution I don’t think that running away will help you. … perhaps you should read Isaiah Chapter13 in which he describes the end times and the multi-cultural societies of today: “And in those days every man shall turn to his own people and everyone shall try to flee to his own land but all who are caught on the way shall be thrust through and all who are joined to them shall perish by the sword.”
I wouldn’t advise anyone to emigrate unless it’s back to the country they came from, it could be their death warrant. What the Nazis did in the 1930’s and 1940’s was a mere dress rehearsal for what is about to take place on a global scale. Foreigners who are seen as taking jobs and food from the mouths of the indigenous are going to be massacred.”
[I haven’t verified if that is what Chapter 13 says.]
Or, maybe it’s important to be heck out of Dodge well before 10-10-09?
I was a bit aggravated this evening, after I spent some time out under the latest chemtrails, it was noticeable to me, but it wasn‘t that strong. It’s somewhat easier to control if you know what the cause is,… sometimes.
Have you ever heard of the White Rose?
@Dude, moon with an atmosphere? I noticed the ring around the moon several years ago, as if my eyes were filled with chlorine after swimming. I thought the effect was from substances in the (our) atmosphere. I have seen the effect many times.
Stef steals the show, I look forward to reading what he finds. It seems like Dude might too if he doesn’t get put to sleep on his flight. I think, on many flights the passengers are deprived of oxygen, enough to make them fall asleep for the ride, but I only have second hand accounts to go by.
Sorry about my long post(s) I didn’t want ‘em to be long either. It’s not like this is just any-ole chat.
June 12, 2009 at 12:45 am
It’s gracious of you, Ursa, and I thank you.
I’m one of those kids who loved school. Chaotic home, so school meant order and tranquility. Sanctuary…a place where I could study with some expectation of peace & quiet.
Actually, I’ve never stopped going to school…college, university, extra-curricular courses in painting, film, theatre, name it. I even like that particular smell of schools. You know the one.
The academic environment is, for me, gratifying. Never been bullied. And I’ve had many splendid teachers. Then again, I’ve always behaved towards authority with a mix of barely disguised contempt and a dollop of insolence. Risky, but it has served me well.
You wouldn’t believe the taboo topics I’ve brought up in classes leading to a lot of pretty “dynamic” debates.
Still, you need be only half-way articulate to flip a class on its head. Time and again, fellow students have thanked me for saying in class what they were too timid, or lacked the self-assurance to say.
Anyway, thanks again.
Exhausting day, ignore my typos etc.
911TruthNOW
June 12, 2009 at 12:52 am
clark:youre right..good cheer and patience. haha two years now and noones done anything. most of the family ignores me. half the friends got hostile or mean. lemme look waaaay deep into my soul…there might be a little good cheer left….no wait, thats my heineken bottle.
one doesnt need chemtrails to have different moods. yes the people here are way more educated and tolerant of things than most. Sorry if i seem impatient. others are plucking my nerves too.
Bible says to leave and you save your lives. Isaiah 13 is talking about people here trying to go home, wherever home is. thats probably one of the least significant verses in that chapter. Keep reading, like the whole book in a night. read one big book or several little books in a night. its very very repetitive and details are scattered. rereading brings out details missed in previous readings.
Im not talking about a ring around the moon. Im talking about a faint blue glow thats very close to the moon and very thin and you cant see it without a telescope. and its only on the side of the moon facing the sun.
June 12, 2009 at 12:54 am
Dude, quick answer 6 cm ?, reflecting, as for the rest I’ll tell you tomorrow, if you’re still interested.
Clark: Thanks. And thanks again.
Guys, gals, I’m typung wiht my head on the keyburd.
Tire d..Gots to bed.
Take care.
911tru
June 12, 2009 at 1:01 am
lemme look waaaay deep into my soul…there might be a little good cheer left….no wait, thats my heineken bottle.
Funny Dude.
June 12, 2009 at 9:46 am
Mood swings are not an effect of chemtrails but of the HAARP e/m being pumped through chemtrails and broadcast at levels which affect humans.
June 12, 2009 at 10:18 am
Advocating genocide
318. (1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
Definition of “genocide”
(2) In this section, “genocide” means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,
(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction.
Consent
(3) No proceeding for an offence under this section shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.
Definition of “identifiable group”
(4) In this section, “identifiable group” means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 318; 2004, c. 14, s. 1.
June 12, 2009 at 10:30 am
Incoming space rocks now classified
By Leonard David • SPACE.com’s Space Insider Columnist • June 10, 2009
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For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth’s atmosphere – but no longer.
A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released, SPACE.com has learned.
The satellites’ main objectives include detecting nuclear bomb tests, and their characterizations of asteroids and lesser meteoroids as they crash through the atmosphere has been a byproduct data bonanza for scientists.
The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now classified.
“It’s baffling to us why this would suddenly change,” said one scientist familiar with the work. “It’s unfortunate because there was this great synergy…a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn’t be done any other way. It’s a regrettable change in policy.”
Scientists say not only will research into the threat from space be hampered, but public understanding of sometimes dramatic sky explosions will be diminished, perhaps leading to hype and fear of the unknown.
Incoming!
Most “shooting stars” are caused by natural space debris no larger than peas. But routinely, rocks as big as basketballs and even small cars crash into the atmosphere. Most vaporize or explode on the way in, but some reach the surface or explode above the surface. Understandably, scientists want to know about these events so they can better predict the risk here on Earth.
Yet because the world is two-thirds ocean, most incoming objects aren’t visible to observers on the ground. Many other incoming space rocks go unnoticed because daylight drowns them out.
Over the last decade or so, hundreds of these events have been spotted by the classified satellites. Priceless observational information derived from the spacecraft were made quickly available, giving researchers such insights as time, a location, height above the surface, as well as light-curves to help pin down the amount of energy churned out from the fireballs.
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more here…….http://floridatoday.com/article/20090610/BREAKINGNEWS/90610048/1086
June 12, 2009 at 10:46 am
mood swings are also caused by waking up, dealing with idiots, various drugs, having a firecracker lit under your ass, etc….
It doesnt surprise me about them classifying asteroid events since Nibiru is going to bring a ton of them with it. Some are already arriving. Thats another effect of Nibiru thats described in the Bible.
June 12, 2009 at 10:48 am
Here’s a link to the declassified NRO sats with data that leads you down the yellow brick road to nowhere.
http://www.thespacereview.com/archive/1384a.pdf
June 12, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Cool. I updated my doc with that and more news and added a couple more chemtrail pics to maybe open peoples’ eyes.
you find that on http://whatreallyhappened.com ?
June 13, 2009 at 1:43 am
The new chemtrails are just broken up chemtrails here, now. Normally a full chemtrail is horizon to horizon. So, now, 1/8 of the chemtrail then a break of about -what say- 20 jet lengths, then another 1/8, then five or ten jet lengths, etc…
I know someone who was up north of me who saw the new xclouds, said they didn’t go away quickly, lasted a long time.
@Dude, I was waiting in a parking lot watching the jets do their chemtrail thing above the obliviotrons walking out from shopping. I was watching one jet veer off course abruptly [that caught my attention they never veer here, just straight line.] at an angle towards an area where, at first I thought it was the glint off a jet, then after it disappeared behind a cloud and didn’t re-emerge I thought maybe it was a meteorite of some kind. But it didn’t streak or anything. The image was kind of burned into my mind like you get when someone flashes a camera flash at you, a tiny round spot. I didn’t think much of it until I showed someone your latest 10-10-09 page and they pointed out your picture of PlanetX where you ask, “What’s this spot?” Then it hit me. [The size in relation to the Sun is about the same as I saw.] I didn’t say nothing, then the person I’m showing your website to acts startled and says, “I think I’ve seen this before. At first I thought I was freaking out. I thought it was a really weird reflection and I couldn’t figure out what it was.” This was from an astronomy buff.
The one I saw was in my Western sky.
If I didn’t already mention it, if you feel like it, you can re-adjust your trajectory for the B-52 bomber flight path on your image to have it track over Western Illinois. I know I saw one at the time of the event and I‘m pretty certain that was the one. I cannot recall the direction though. Or is it common for them to fly over cities? I think they have a base for them in Illinois, but I have never seen one flying in this area before. While I never once looked at the exhaust from jets, for decades I’ve looked at the jet themselves, not once did I see a B-52, they are unmistakable.
I haven’t re-read Ezekiel yet and I’m getting more and more convinced every day.
@Ursa Major, I finally got to watch the video you posted. Awesome. Thanks for posting it. It was perfect. I hope the indoor city slickers watch it and wonder. I see that Yahoo upped the xcloud article to top billing spot.
@eric, do you think this is where the flights originate?
Robert Harney should squeal and tell all.
June 13, 2009 at 10:07 am
Maybe this would help with finding and seeing it with a telescope: What I saw was just above the 10 O’clock position, at about 8 p.m. CST, slightly North of the Sun.
June 13, 2009 at 10:10 am
Hi all!
Dude, you said it: Waking up is one thing, but waking up to a milky white sky? From Dr.Jekyll to Mr.Hyde in a flash. This morning for instance! Pass the Heinekin, man…
My bro and I stayed up till 3 am. Very cloudy (real ones) hence, we had to wait for it to clear up. No chems and we futzed around a lot trying to acquaint ourselves with the telescope.
We decided to buy sun lenses and filters (?) this week, plus a couple of more powerful lenses for nights.
Thanks for the info, man. Keep it coming…
Clark: Obliviotrons. Funny. I become deranged when I see the retards charging about with their “green” bags staring straight ahead or at their feet while their benighted heads…ugh! F…k ‘em, I say.
So you think you saw it, eh? I’ve read your comment a couple of times, and I’m still not clear. Approximately how far from the sun did this glint appear? A hands breadth? Arm’s length? Finger? And the jet veered to do what?
“There’s a little black spot on the sun today
It’s the same old thing as yesterday
There’s a black cat caught in a high tree top
There’s a flag-pole rag and the wind won’t stop”
(Sting&Police)
FF this has become one of my favourite watering-holes.
Thanks Everybody!
911TruthNOW (USrael)
June 13, 2009 at 10:15 am
Sorry re. typos. Meant “over their benighted heads” but I’m sure you figured that out.
Clark: Writing overlap. Thanks.
stef
TRUTH
June 13, 2009 at 10:51 am
I meant of course, always right in front of the ’sun’, not ’son’ in my second paragraph above.
June 13, 2009 at 10:52 am
We had mostly blue sky with some real white clouds most of the day yesterday. Of course, that can’t be allowed to continue, right?
I went to a village north of me yesterday evening to babysit my grandson, and saw plenty of chemtrails on my way (ALWAYS right in front of the son during sunset for some reason). Stopped often to take pictures, and then, after the baby was asleep and parents gone, went outside and took pictures of evil looking sunset.
Of course, as expected, milky white sky this morning. Yuck. There isn’t even any texture to it any more, just a thick, white covering.
Stef, I agree with the idiots ‘charging about with their green bags’, NEVER looking up. Mind you, since here they have now started charging us for every plastic bag we use at the store, I’ve started using fabric bags, too. But being green is not my religion, I do it because I have no intentions of paying for stupid plastic bags.
I wonder what those dummies think when I get out of my car at the store, look at the sky, get out my camera and take a bunch of pictures before going shopping.
It happens wherever I go.
June 13, 2009 at 10:55 am
Hey, my little comment above went ABOVE the one I was commenting on! What is going on?
June 13, 2009 at 11:09 am
WordPress weirdness. It stacks the comments automatically. It has gotten better but there are still quirks.
June 13, 2009 at 11:50 am
Ursa, I do likewise re. bags and I make a stink at the cash every time explaining how we’ve been paying for the bags all along anyway, they are included in the price, how I recycle them, how they’ll end up having to BUY little plastic kitchen bags in the long run…bla-bla.
A number of people leaving stores with loose, unbagged merchandise looking displeased. That’s good.
Forgive me, Ursa&Celline, but when I start my “bag” harangue the men always nod in agreement, whereas women frown and purse their lips and some say, “But we’re trying to protect to environment” … I tell you, it is hopeless.
Women tend to be more passive, less questioning, love to do “what’s best,” you know…obey the guvmint, and all that.
WARNING! NEXT LINE MAY BE REGARDED AS OFFENSIVE:
Think it was Schopenhauer said, “The best part of a woman’s brain is expelled with the placenta.”
OKAY TO READ NOW:
Seeing you taking pictures of the sky must intrigue a few. Good for you, Ursa. Think I’ll do likewise. So your IQ IS higher than mine after all.
Been reading about Nibiru on lots of sites, no mention of chemtrails, some say it’s a Jesuit lie/plot, but a number of scientific types advising there’s reason to worry and prepare etc.
Question: Dude, Clark saw it at 10:00 o’clock. Others say 4-5 o’clock and still others, one must look into the sun to see it…???
Anyway, once the sun filters/lenses are on we’ll take a good look all around, at different times.
Thanks again.
Stef
June 13, 2009 at 12:23 pm
“The collapse of WTC at the speed of freefall is more disinformation meant to dumb down the public.”
What do you mean? Please explain, Eric.
Gracias.
June 13, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Stef, you didn’t offend me with your comment. For many women that is very true.
If you look up ‘Asperger Syndrome’ you would realize that my brain is wired more like a man’s brain. I don’t think like other women, that is why in gatherings I usually end up talking to the men rather than the women. Men usually talk about things worth talking about, and won’t get all offended when a heated discussion ensues, in fact, they enjoy it.
All most (not all, obviously) women want to talk about is shopping, fashion, hair, cooking and babies.
I hate shopping for clothing, do it only when I have to. Fashion is entirely meaningless to me, I wear whatever I want and like (and it better be comfortable or I won’t wear it, and that includes shoes), and only buy new things when the old ones wear out. And my hair is in an easy bob, I can’t be bothered fussing with it. I am a great cook, but do it only because I have to, I don’t enjoy cooking and baking. It stops me from doing my research.
I do like to talk about my grandchildren (I have eleven, and one more within a month), because they are obviously the cutest and smartest kids on the planet.
I only take those pictures in public when none of my family members are with me. Otherwise they would get angry with me. I am a constant embarrassment to them, because I am different and do ‘weird’ things like taking pictures of ‘perfectly normal clouds and contrails’, claiming they are not normal. Ugh
And I HATE the government, rarely is there a politician anywhere in the world who actually cares about the people. Besides, they are all puppets, anyway. They are all lying, thieving hoodlums.
June 13, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Thanks, Stef, I was puzzled by Eric’s comment, too.
June 13, 2009 at 1:22 pm
911 truthers like to point out that the basement of the WTC was cut with thermite and that caused the collapse. If the planes caused the collapse it would have been a pancaking effect and not freefall. The buildings came down at the speed of gravity because the bottom and not the top was the cause for the collapse.
June 13, 2009 at 2:10 pm
People have been dumbed-down to such an extent they believe the planes/fire caused “pancake” effect? Correct.
The masses believe what msmedia tells them. Curiosity is discouraged, it’s considered a flaw nowadays.
How does the adage go? Oh! Yeah, “Curiosity killed the cat.”
But it ends, “Satisfaction brought him back.” Ha!
I know of Iserbyt and others who’ve explained the Great Dumbing-Down, how it was done, when it started, who is responsible…
Thanks Eric. You had me worried there for a sec.
911TruthNOW (USrael)
June 13, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Of course, not JUST the bombs in the basement were the cause of the collapse (even though without those explosions it couldn’t have worked). There were charges going off in quick succession (plenty of eye witnesses for that) to cut the steel girders all over the place as the buildings collapsed.
Everybody in my own family believes the government bullcrap ‘explanation’, it drives me crazy! How is it possible to be so blind and totally dismiss (or refuse to examine) all the evidence that shows that the planes did NOT bring down those buildings?
In fact, there was a witness (I think it was the janitor, who I believe has in the meantime ‘committed suicide’) who said that there were bombs going off in the basement BEFORE any plane hit!
I am so glad I can at least say those things here without being told that people are ‘concerned about my mental health’
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June 13, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Long live Asperger Syndrome! Let’s hope your female grandchildren all inherit it!
If more women “suffered” from this syndrome Shopy might not have decided to live out his life in the company of standard poodles.
He considered poodles the smartest amongst the breeds (they are in the top 3) and scintillating company compared to humans, especially compared to the average woman.
I agree, excluding present company, of course.
Ciao for now everybody!
June 13, 2009 at 5:09 pm
@stef, I suppose it could have been a flash of something burning up in the atmosphere, but it didn’t seem that way to me. All I know is I saw a small bright spot quite like in the photo. I think, two hands breadth from the sun, in the 2 O’clock position from the sun.
The jet, “just veered” about 45 degrees to change direction towards where the spot was, the jet was a little under a hands breadth away from the spot. If it wasn’t for the veering of the jet I wouldn’t have noticed the spot. Like I said, here, the jets always go in a straight line. This was the first time I saw one change the angle of its flight path. At first I thought the jet was changing its flight path to avoid two others coming from the opposite direction, but they were never lined up to collide. If anything, their flight paths were closer to intersecting after the change in flight path. Then I had to move my car so I didn’t watch anymore.
The comments about others seeing the spot at different locations, that’s why I left a time and time zone for when I saw it, I imagine that it is a changing orbit and is in different parts of the sky at different times and depending on what area of the country you’re in. That’s why others would say 4 O’clock position, it was at a different time of day in a different time zone. Just my guess.
Talking about plastic bags, I noticed for awhile there a lot of the stores had plastic bags that smelled really bad. Even my plastic garbage bags smelled. At first I thought my garbage bags were stunk up from frying fish in a closed up kitchen, but even the bags deep in the package smelled, not so much the outside of the bag, but the inside after I opened it up. I supposed it was possible it was from the frying, but…? I haven’t done much shopping to know if the bags of the stores still stink or if that was a temporary thing. I thought maybe it was just cheap bag manufacturing, but very different stores had the same problem, as if something in the air was reacting to them. All I know is, it was odd, and my new garbage bags, same brand, don’t stink. Back to the idea of carbon consuming organisims being dropped in the sky to control pollution, perhaps? I did notice the headline of my local paper today says the air pollution level is cleaner.
I was always in favor of paper sacks, re-useable, mostly biodegradable and more stuff fits in them.
The entire sky is cloudy today, unseasonably cool temps, can’t see chemtrails due to the clouds. I read the comments for the Infowars article about the new xclouds, it seems like all of the nation is experiencing the same unseasonable cooler temps and cloud cover and chemtrail activity, according to those posting anyway.
June 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm
By the afternoon the white stuff cleared, revealing crazy ‘cloud’ formations underneath, as well as some blue sky. After driving my youngest daughter to have her prom pictures taken (and me taking some, or I’ll be in the dog house……… I absolutely hate things like proms), I took some more pictures.
For a while there was a rainbow ring around the sun, weird. Yesterday I got pictures of the sun shining through chem-clouds, and there were colours like pink and turquoise in the white stuff around the sun.
Also, yesterday evening there were dark, long shadows (if that’s what they were) coming like long tails from some clouds, in the direction away from the setting sun. Of course, there shouldn’t be shadows in a blue sky, unless there is stuff in the sky to throw a shadow onto.
I don’t think we really ever just have a normal blue sky any more, even if it looks like we do. The blue used to be a deeper blue than it is ever now.
My neighbours always see me outside taking pictures of the sky. They must wonder what I am doing by now! But you know, I still never see them looking up.
June 13, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Yes, paper bags were good, then they said too many forests were being destroyed, so plastic was better, now plastic’s not “friendly,” back to paper, which after WWIII will be really rare, so back to plastic….they can play us any way they like and we just go along to get along.
Thanks Clark for extra details.
Ursa: The colorful clouds and corona around the sun are the result of heavy chemtrailing with ethylene debromide. I thought I told Celline…anyway look it up. I may not have spelled it right, must be close enough.
My neighbor and I had a chat over the fence and I asked if he’d noticed the skies are no longer blue, and when they are they don’t stay that way. He said, “Absolutely.”
I lent him my sunglasses to better see that toxic corona around the sun, pretty colours. He is on board, it would seem. Pockets of light, pockets of light…
Ta-ta till later
June 13, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Oh! Dude, we then are those who will not believe? Thanks.
And Clark, no, my plastic bags don’t stink. They may have at one time perhaps, but the ones I use are not new. I started collecting them since they told us plastic was better. Ha!
Some stores don’t charge for them yet and, boy, I clean ‘em out.
No bad smells I can detect…
June 13, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Well, for a change by the time the sun was setting, the sky was blue with no clouds at all. Of course, by the morning we may have complete cover again.
I just went outside to see what is happening, and the sky is filled with bright stars, a rare sight these days!
June 14, 2009 at 1:30 am
The wife says, “Did she take a piture of it?’ And I think, yeah, did she take a picture of the colorful sun? Hey friend of mine [ I din't intend so, but I consider you all my friends, fiesty can't get along but friends lol] can you put your pictures online?
@Dude, and others, I like lite, not full flavored. But lite aint bad. Heh- typing aint so hard to do while intox. Might as well get intox as ……………… I aint saying,… did you see the latest Canoe Reeves movie…. wow… that movie was sumthin’. Kinda, “green” but wow….
What’s the matter wit h prom nite Ursa Major??? That is supposed to be the funnest nite of them all. I never got to experience it though, buit I think it shoulda been the funnest for the young ppl. Rainbow ring around the sun… I wanna see that! i have seen shadows in the blue sky b4 , that is freaky.
I am just a man, nothing more nothing less… I am no one who knows something… nothing more nothing less.. Ursa.. don’t give a F*** what ypour neighbors think.. Remember, your studying weather. Why did you choose the nick you have? I have a friend in Ontario.. just one… sometimes I wonder if you’re her… I doubt it thou… Take the f*** out of pictures they are art and history.. OMG I miss my freinds who would appreciate this kinda stuff.
@stef… man. you gotta stop giving the ladies such a hard time.. I se your point… I get it… but you-got-to-be-more-mello- no need to vocalize what the whole of men think,, occasionally, beccause sometimes, the women get whta we don’t… kind a like one of those images where you ahve to hold the image at just so far away or you can’t see it.. you know what I’m saying..in the comic strips…??? I think you do.
Ba– paper bags,,, kinda like the oils, tansfat,, one is bad,.. psft.. so they replace it with another and then say that is bad.. try this instead.
Disreguard anytthing I said if it offends you as I’m free typing.
ethylene debromide – Im gonna have ta look that up tomarrow, wtf is that? Sounds like the ingredients to Mt Dew. Rocket freakn fuel!
Stupid wrester Roddie Piper They Live, … jus crazy, … but true?
Pockets of light? hmm. Rays of light? I don’t get it at the moment.
@Stef, some stores are worse than others, I shouldn’t mention names should I.? This one store especially. Some bags are just Gawd aweful… I just notice this type of stuff, I suppose some people don’t. It’s the hunter in me… parta bein a Midwestern guy!
I try to be aware.
Ursa Major, your skys are clear,,, can you see your southern or western sky? Just wondering. Info to know, you know? – cloud filled nite here.
I shouldn’r]t say no more, you all HAGO! Live, love,,, en someting else.
I- am – a human being… I live! Me!
June 14, 2009 at 2:07 am
Clark, my name is Ursula. It comes from Latin, meaning ’small she bear’ I believe. Ursa Major is the Great Bear or Big Dipper star constellation. Obviously, Ursula comes from Ursa. A friend suggested my nick once in a forum I belong to, because it was better not to use my real name for security reasons.
I am way behind in putting my pics up in my skydrive, it takes way too long to upload. I’ll try to get it done tomorrow, and I’ll definitely include the crazy rainbow around the sun and those freaky turquoise and pink colours around the sun the other day. Because yes, I take pictures of EVERYTHING I see that is of interest.
I am so glad for digital photography, because it doesn’t cost anything to take loads of pictures, unless you print them. I have a large one terrabyte external hard drive for storage now, and don’t have to worry about running out of space anytime soon.
Where does your friend live? I am in Alliston.
About the prom, I hate parties, I don’t like crowds, I have central auditory processing disorder and can’t differentiate all those noises in crowds. Meaning, I can’t really talk to people when too much is going on, as everything blends together as noise, and I can’t understand anybody. It is very frustrating and gets disorienting after a while.
That kind of thing is the downside of Asperger Syndrome. I get sensory overload and either have to shut down or go into meltdown mode.
Plus, I absolutely hate getting dressed up. I only do it for weddings, and then only reluctantly. I seriously can’t understand how people enjoy parties and getting all dressed up in clothes that aren’t comfortable and choose to wear high heels (torture instruments).
But I did support my kid, went dress and shoe and everything else shopping, even though I hate shopping, too, as well as telling her she looked beautiful (she did, of course) and taking pictures.
June 14, 2009 at 7:54 am
Hi there, Clark. That was moving, my friend, quite moving.
You want to see pictures of chems? Go to “Strange Days, Strange Skies.” It has ‘em all and I would suggest Ursa send her’s there as it’s the biggest compilation that I know of the net. I may have mentioned it before…
I prefer wine. Heh! No, haven’t seen that film. I watch any recent Hollowood film only for info on what the “elite” are planning next. Their “religion” has it “they” must tell us what they’ll do. Now, that’s weird!
Prom night? I was so drunk it’s only a vagueish memory. Stupid rituals, proms, weddings, 1st communions, circumcisions, all a lot of mix-’n-match pagan mumbo-jumbo, altered, adapted, re-invented to bolster the validity of this religion or that, agh! no patience for that stuff.
Rainbow corona around the sun. Again, see “Strange Days…” and, Clark, don’t wish to see it too much, ’cause when you do it means the air is thick with ethelyne d. and everything below is on the “endangered” list.
“I am just a man, nothing more nothing less… I am no one who knows something… nothing more nothing less” a hint of Hemingway in that. Just re-read for the nnnnth time his short story, “A Clean, Well-Lighted Place.” Know it?
And I heartely agree with Clark. Ursa, to everything turn, turn, turn… neighbors? Socrates, in the “Allegory” or “Myth of the Cave” warns that trying to pull the illusion-lovers into the light would be a daunting task indeed. Anyway, Clark put it beautifully…F==k ‘em!
Pictures [....] you know what I’m saying..in the comic strips…???” The artwork of Roy Lichtenstein? Probably.
“They Live” is a cult classic. Tweak this or that and you have pretty much what we’re seeing today.
“Pockets of light” as in everytime you point to the chems or explain about 911 etc. and one person listens with interest, or says, “I’ve been wondering about that, tell me more” or they take down the name of a site…well, it’s another little light in the dark, so to speak. Okay?
“[...] no need to vocalize what the whole of men think.” Sweet. But really, I thought I had been playing nice? Perhaps you’re right Clark, they get things we don’t. I’ve yet to meet one of those though. Present company excepted, naturally.
And Clark, to offend me you’d have to drill really, really deep. I spend time on French sites as well and the vulgarity and vitriol makes this place feel like a Sunday tea-party. Think I’ve said that before…
Next time I’m in a store gives bags away, I’ll pry one open, stick my stupid face into one and exclaim, “Man! This thing stinks!” Ha!
Live long & prosper, my friend, or Nanu-Nanu, whichever best suits the occasion.
Thanks, Clark.
911TruthNOW (USrael)
June 14, 2009 at 8:09 am
Incidentally, did you mean KEANU Reeves?
Bet you did.
June 14, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I have been to ’strange days strange skies’, it’s bookmarked in my favourites. And even though they have a lot of pics already, mine are still unique. Especially because they keep changing all the time.
The sky here today? As I was saying last night when looking at those beautiful stars, it was too good to last. The sky is filled with obvious chemtrail plumes today.
I don’t know when they got busy, but they sure did.
June 14, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Whew – I was hoping I wouldn’t regret posting that and I thought it would’ve been taken all wrong & … was thinking it needed deleted.
Yeah, KEANU.
[I'm thinking, Graven images are bad - not plain flat TV images, they tell a story, convey a thought. Unless they are worshiped.]
That movie conveyed a lot of (similar) the ideas from here.
When I told another about that passage Dude presents, about the canibal fathers eat the sons, we agreed it may be describing the condition/situation of the boomer generation using the future taxes from future gnerations to eat and live today.
I’m not ready to type yet.
June 14, 2009 at 1:22 pm
clark: youre in fantasy land with both of those incorrect Biblical assumptions. The Bible is very literal and means exactly what it says. By next April (also given in the Bible), people here will be eating people and God means ALL images are sin. The moving+speaking image is talked about and that is the image of the beast, it is also called the molten image. READ MORE.
June 14, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Say Dude, please believe I’m not being deliberately obtuse here, but how you know this hologram we are “living” in is God’s? Didn’t we discuss the eye itself works like a camera. Each of us has a “tv” at the back of our brains!
If the universe, as we know it, is a hologram doesn’t that mean it is, in its entirety, one big false moving+speaking image?
Isn’t Lucifer the great deceiver? What if this whole matrix is Lucifer’s toy/creation? Doesn’t it make more sense for a liar/deceiver to conceive of such a artificial creation?
If find your phobia with exogenous images mystifying. To hear you tell it, you possess not a single photo album. No films of your of travels, your friends, family?
I imagine unadorned walls throughout the house?
No astronomy magazines even? You avert your eyes at billboards on the highway?
Images, what you deem false images and sinful, are ubiquitous today. To avoid sinning, one would decide to be voluntarily housebound or live in a cave/woods?
Ah! I’m at a loss to comprehend…image of the beast?
You are convinced that God made the hologram. Okay. But, and I must be wrong here, you profess that anything we view in it that wasn’t in it originally, ie. film of any kind or sculpture or painting, is a sin?
How do we know what was here originally? According to what I’ve read whenever Nibiru crosses our path whole continents shift, break apart and re-form; fresh, new, original, yet significantly different, every time.
I want you to know how dearly I’d like to “get” your meaning, Dude. And the ’sin’ part is of no concern to me.
Thanks.
Adios Amigos,
911etc.
June 14, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I believe that what God means are images that are being adored/worshiped. Like the golden calf the Israelites made in the desert when Moses was up on Mound Sinai.
Pictures and statues of Jesus I believe are false images (people worship the image instead of Jesus). Or statues of Mary and the saints that people pray to. That is clearly idolatry and forbidden by God. Other things can BECOME idols, if people worship them and put them above God. That doesn’t mean that they are to be avoided generally.
Photographs are just to remember what we have seen, they are not false images or idols in my opinion.
Dude, I agree with Stef. How do you manage to never look at pictures when you are on the computer? And looking through a telescope or binoculars, don’t you see a picture rather than the original, too?
How did you figure out what chemtrails all over the world look like without looking at pictures? Have you never checked out a video on youTube?
Also, you used plenty of pictures in your document. What about those?
The people who originally wrote the Bible didn’t know anything about inventions like TVs or cameras. Therefore the Bible doesn’t say that they are evil, as there was no such a thing back then.
There also weren’t any cars, planes or helicopters. That is why when a prophet saw one of those things in a vision, they’d have to try their best to describe them, without knowing what they were. And I think your interpretation is right on for those.
Without comparing those descriptions with pictures of things existing today, you would not have been able to figure it out.
I also really, truly don’t believe in the idea that our universe is just a hologram. It doesn’t make sense as far as I am concerned.
June 14, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Uschi,in College, when I was 19, among other nutty things we were taught about ” Bert Brecht ” who wanted it taught, that the world and us and every thing that’s on and in the earth.. were merely things of our imagination, and not real..
It is a typical NewAge teaching, that I “overboarded ” right then and there.. as BS…
And I thought, that this nutty teaching had finally vanished, yet I can see.. it’s still rearing its ugly head… In the end, we all need to decide what is Truth and what are Lies !
June 14, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Just out of curiosity, I’ve got a voltage/current detector that indicates both while set to lowest sensitivity. Either there’s a lot of RF, or there’s some current and voltage flowing through the air and through me. I wonder if the TV stations eliminating their signals reduces interference for what ever else is flowing through the air? Or, maybe, “they” want to up the power out-put of the HARRP, but cannot without knocking out the old TV signals and giving themselves away as the source? The TV stations did have quite a problem with their signals recently, I thought anyway, especially the UHF band.
I wonder if the GPS coordinates taken by the Census Bureau will be used to transmit wireless power? This is supposed to be in our future, so that might make sense for the purpose of the GPS takings of the Census Bureau. That, “free energy” mentioned earlier could be used but, “they” would still charge money for it?
I guess I’m hoping it’s not for target coordinates.
@Dude, fantasy land = open thought? [Not exactly clear thinking on my part this a.m. surly, still not even now] But…the Bible very much so uses symbolism, especially with parables. Not everything is literal. I suspect everything in Ezekiel is meant to be almost literal though, with the modifier as. (modifier or descriptor?) Eyes as lions.
A photograph of a baby is sinful? How so? What about illustrations of the Bible’s contents?
I did read some of Ezekiel (working on the rest) it Does mention cannibalism like you said, it was very clear. It said God would do evil, which I found odd, but it was very clear. What wasn’t clear to me was equating the USA as being Israel. In other sections of the Bible it reefers to Israel’s previous destruction and it reads much like Ezekiel’s description, both refer to Israel the same way.
Ezekiel also said there will be survivors, remnants, but I’m not sure who those are.
From what I gathered so far, it won’t matter where an Isreali goes, same fate awaits.
The Boomer generation is cannibalizing the next generation(s) in a figurative way, it just isn’t what Ezekiel meant, you’re right about that.
Celline Says: wanted it taught, that the world and us and every thing that’s on and in the earth.. were merely things of our imagination, and not real..
How about, not our imagination, but rather God’s imagination. I think that’s what the TV receiver thinking is implying.
Stef & Ursa good points.
June 15, 2009 at 12:41 am
” The ” Bert Brecht” theory was taught in colleges, and as far as I know.. still is. At the time it sounded off the wall and crazy.. yet I have heard it again, right in the good ol’ US …” as for me and my house…” check it in Jobe if u are interested, In the end, the Truth wins out !
June 15, 2009 at 1:04 am
I think people who spontaneously combust are victims of HAARP or some derative thereof.
I’ve always wondered why the “Our Father” says, “And lead us not into temptation.” Who composed that prayer anyway? Why would God do that? That’s Lucifer’s job, isn’t it?
Clark: Good idea re. voltage/current detector. Where can I buy one?
Celline: I studied Brecht in highschool and college. It was never mentioned in class that he said what you claim he said, but if he did, well, he may well have had a point: Everything might just a figment of our imagination….all an illusion.
In any case, Brecht was a Marxist so I lost interest.
Nite all.
911etc.
June 15, 2009 at 3:29 am
Hello, group. Mind if I join the discussion ?
I’m in the Okanagan Valley, in British Columbia. I first heard about chemtrails on talk radio and was skeptical until….in the fall of 2007 we had our remaining Ponderosa pines cut down ( pine beetle) and the following spring I was outside all day long re-landscaping ( I’m a sloooowww , fussy planter). What I saw in my skies shocked and horrified me.Chemtrails were no longer a hypothetical , they were an in-my-face REALITY. I have to say that chemtrails have pretty much destroyed my life.
Very interesting thread, this one, but Ursula your posts are the ones that really resonate with me. I share your pain. Trying to wake people up has been an absolutely horrible experience for me. It took my hubby a few months, but he’s fully on board now. What did it for him was one day last July when , after many months of zero rain, there was a 10 minute cloudburst. We were driving and on the highway where the rainwater had pooled was a coating of white powder. He said, ” What the heck is that ? It looks like somebody ahead of us lost a load of lime on the road .” I replied, ” No, that’s what they’ve been spraying us with and the rain washed it down. ” He still didn’t believe it and changed lanes. Same white powder. We drove a few more miles and turned off the hwy . The centre line on the road leading to our house which is painted yellow was white. That did it for him. He was fully awake. My dear, sweet mum, who is in her eighties now, is also awake. But then, she has spiritual discernment in spades. She’s some kind of saint who raised 9 children without ever raising her voice.
But, other than my husband and my mother, my chemtrail awakening success ratio is a horror story. One of my best friends of over 30 yrs just hung up the phone on me the other day, in terrible anger, when I brought up chemtrails. Others either patronize or mock me. The subject of chemtrails is now verboten at family gatherings, so I’ve stopped going.
Well this is long enough for an initial post. I’ve spent the last yr reading everything I could get my hands on re HAARP and chemtrails so in future will recommend a few great sites and fill you in on what’s happening here in my beautiful valley ( Death Valley, now). All our sparrows were wiped out in mid-January after a brutal CT/HAARP attack.
What we are witness to is nothing other than ecocide !
June 15, 2009 at 4:11 am
@NightmareSkies: Wecome ;o) to our blog. We know your pain because it is ours also ! So happy to have you !
Yes we share.. and I often cry silently because of frustration. No one believes me either, subject is Verboten in my family, even friends also.
Here we can say what we see and feel.. and it is met w. understanding and compassion. If we just could find a solution. Until then.. we share.. and are of much domfort to eachother.
Again welcome, and I hope you come back soon .
June 15, 2009 at 4:12 am
ecocide/genocide.. ?!maybe both.. Do you still see honeybees where u live?
June 15, 2009 at 6:55 am
Celine honey danke for your welcome ( I’m of German extraction also : – )
These chemtrails have really got me hooped. Everything inside of me wants to run down the streets screaming ” What’s the matter with you people ? Are you blind ?” But I’ve learned that most people don’t give a damn one way or another.The majority are firmly locked into the matrix . And the few ( the very few) who admit there is indeed something suspicious about what passes for ” clouds ” these days, just shrug their shoulders and get on with what’s really important in their lives ( usually malicious gossip or some damn TV show or movie). This apathy is sickening . It’s the culmination of generations of NWO social engineering that’s produced a population of dumbed down, celebrity obsessed morons. Sorry if that sounds harsh but it’s how I feel. As I watch the plants and the animals struggling to survive in this toxic soup, as I watch my husband reach for his asthma puffer yet again, when death from respiratory disease from UNKNOWN CAUSES climbs from number 8 to number 4 at a time of de-industrialization ….how can I feel any other way ? How can anybody ? But as we all know, they do. As I said, they mostly don’t give a damn.
Anyway, the chemspew planes started hitting our valley real bad starting last spring.They would start in the east ( they follow the sun in order to photoionize the nano-particulate ). By noon the east was a whiteout but we still had sun in the western part of the valley where I live. In the afternoon they were right over my head spraying over the sun. Depending on what they were spraying, symptoms varied from burning eyes, sore throats, ” allergies”, mouth blisters that felt like they should turn into cold sores, but never did ( from the barium), permanently blocked sinuses, and never ending headaches ( I NEVER got headaches before and I’m 57 ).But, excepting these symptoms, I felt pretty much OK until one afternoon in July . I was excercising in the pool when a very low flying chemsprayer left an enormous trail right over me. Within 10 minutes I could hardly breathe ( I don’t have asthma). It took weeks for my breathing to recover. Whatever they sprayed that day crashed my immune system. Within a couple months I came down with shingles ( very painful) and this winter after shovelling chemsnow for a few hrs ( couldn’t stop sneezing) I wound up in emerg with an irregular hearbeat. And so it goes : – (
One year on, of course it’s much worse. Gray day after gray day and no rain. No spring rains last year, no fall rains, and no spring rains this year either. June is normally our rainiest month. Last Wednesday the dark, rain filled cumulus clouds arrived and so did the chemspew bastards. Every day since Wednesday I have watched them dry up the cumulus. We had not a single drop of rain. This afternoon there was a particularly promising cloud- luscious, black, large. I was praying for even a little shower, but to no avail. A few chemtrails later that cloud may as well have been a mirage. Within half an hour it was destroyed, evaporated, vaporized, whatever you want to call it- zero precip.
The woods are so dry. The animals can’t get water and soon the plants will stop growing so they won’t have food either. Massive water restrictions here already. Aquifers, artesian wells, lake and creek levels all far below normal. The Okanagan is known for its wonderful grape wines, and fantastic fruit ( my absolute favorite is Lapin cherries – developed by the Summerland Research Station as an August variety). But the farmers are going to be in big trouble without water, without rain. God help us, we are all in trouble.
It’s almost 4:00 AM here . I better check out . Tell you about the wildlife in my yard next time, Celine : – )
June 15, 2009 at 7:08 am
Who was it on this blog who talked about the chemtrails affecting our access to the afterlife ? That’s my deepest fear because I suspect it’s true. I know they’re screwing around with the etheric energy of this planet because I can feel it. I’ve always been energy sensitive( precognitive dreams, auras, etc).
Since they started with the heavy chemtrailing here ( chemtrails are active auroras which facilitate the ELF and ULF energy from HAARP and the other phased array antennae systems ) my access to the higher dimensional powers has been affected in very negative way.
June 15, 2009 at 8:01 am
@stef, you can get voltage/current detectors in many places, it’s a common and cheap tool. Electronics stores, tool sections of stores. I still find it amazing that it can sense electrical current through insulated wires without piecing the insulation. Like I said, mine goes off without touching anything. Even though I’m in a city, I sort of live in a valley where TV and radio signals have trouble getting to me. So I doubt RF is causing the sensor to go off like it does. But I’m no expert.
Nightmareskies Says:… The subject of chemtrails is now verboten at family gatherings,..”
I can relate, I don’t know why but that made me laugh. I don’t understand why Agent Orange part II is so hard to accept. I wonder if they didn’t accept there was an Agent Orange the first go-around. Love and trust government?
Nightmareskies Says:… as I watch my husband reach for his asthma puffer yet again..”
I wonder if tobacco helps. They are trying so very hard to rid it from everyone and they added that anti-burn stuff to it that taste terrible and makes people sick. I’ve since stopped smoking commercial cigarettes and now smoke loose leaf I roll myself and I haven’t had any respiratory problems. It could be what kills me, but it seems like so many who don’t smoke die from the same ailments blamed on smoking. Does the tar or nicotine bond with the diethel bromide? Every time I see the word bromide I think of a material that is for bonding stuff together to keep it from separating.
The shoveling of the snow *is* when they gets us bad. We had lots of fog after many snowfalls, not exactly a real common thing here in the past, thick and heavy, I’m sure it was loaded with stuff.
June 15, 2009 at 9:16 am
Thanks Clark. I may get one this week, do a little experimenting.
Dude: My bro bought another lens, don’t know which one yet, he’s bringing it Thursday.
We were lucky for that one clear night ’cause since then its been total coverage. We had to wear sunglasses to look through the viewfinder at the moon, such a bright orange it was.
3/4 moon, craters crisply visible, even a peak, touches of lime green, thin fine yellow lines running over large sections of zillions of miles of flat carrot-coloured land. Spectacular.
Did not see the atmosphere, but will look again first chance I get. Lots of stars, but our lenses weren’t right for it and stars ended up looking like Lifesavers. Meant to ask you about that…
Yesterday I tried to get a chemplane in my sights, but I’m not quick enough in handling the telescope right yet. As I said, I’m new at this.
Nightmare: “Sorry if that sounds harsh.” Uh, I wouldn’t worry about it.
As for all those symptoms directly related to chems, well, I have my doubts. Some people, when they first become aware, suddenly slip into hypochondriac mode. Any boo-boo shows up, they run around crying, “It’s the chems!” “It’s the chems!”
Listen, there are various and sundry poisons aplenty in our food and water and what-not…anyway, you get my drift.
This nefarious project has been going, on in lighter doses, since 1996 – 1998.
For 14 days after 911 there were no chems whatsoever over NY, but that’s probably due to the reduced “normal” air traffic which would have made chems too obvious.
The notion they might be pumping us full of aluminum particles etc., then flip the HAARP switch zapping us like summer bugs, fits their MO to a T. These Luciferians have a real penchant for “burnt offerings” to their god.
If they are weakening our immune system, then it’s in preparation for the BIG SPRAY DAY event. But that wouldn’t be as dramatic, would it? Remember 911?
Notwithstanding, they are definitely trying to conceal something up there.
Look, their god is returning. They fry up whole populations first in honor of his arrival. And this can be readily accomplished from the safety of their D.U.M.B’s, which is where they’ll be on that occasion.
Or, or, it’s mind-control they’re after and they can make us do grotesque and bloody things. How’s that for reality tv, eh?
So long all,
911TruthNOW (USrael)
June 15, 2009 at 9:26 am
And if tobacco helps then pass me a smoke, Clark, with that Heiniken…
June 15, 2009 at 9:30 am
Nightmare: “My access to the higher dimensional powers has been affected in very negative way.”
Heads up! Mumbo-jumbo headin’ our way!
Aw! Shit.
June 15, 2009 at 9:50 am
She Bear: “I also really, truly don’t believe in the idea that our universe is just a hologram. It doesn’t make sense as far as I am concerned.”
Hamlet replies:
“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. …”
Chow!
June 15, 2009 at 10:08 am
clark: the voltage you pick up on your body is most likely from the power lines in your house. touch the probe of an oscilloscope and youll see the 60 hz waveform.
the Bible is very clear about idols–any and all images. i try to avoid images now but i have the same ones most people have but theyre going away and after this war no one will have them and when we find them, we will destroy them.
June 15, 2009 at 11:55 am
Okay. You do that, Dude. Just avoid them, yeah.
After the War, meet me on the corner, and we’ll go destroyin’ what’s left of ‘em together.
By the way, I bought hemp seeds and organic hemp cereal. Thought I’d mash the seeds in my coffee grinder and add them to everything.
I found an article on how delusional vegetarians are with their beans&rice menu. Explains real protein, how much humans’ need, what foods ie. nuts, seeds and beans have the highest protein and Omega-3 etc..
Went stock-piling again today, adhering to the list.
Buh-bye
911= USrael
June 15, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Mean “heavier doses” duh.
June 15, 2009 at 12:44 pm
That last “heavier doses” must make no sense.
I meant that they were chemtrailing in 1996-1998, but lightly compared with now. They’ve been going at it, since their two week hiatus following 911, like bats out of hell.
There. All better now.
June 15, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Interesting to have another Okanagon POV. I’m in Kamloops. The beetle infestation was promolgated by the release of hydrogen flouride which affects the immune system (gum production) of pine trees and people. If you go to the government website it has maps showing the origins of the infestation just west in a small triangle pointed at Kitimat. Ten years later, that triangle is province wide. It’s hard to describe this genocide of trees to others who have no idea that this province has killed off 10 billion fully grown first stand trees in 10 years.
Stef obviously has issues with the suggestion that souls are not physical entities but electrical/magnetic in their nature so I’m not about to entreat this subject here.
David Icke is on the Alex Jones show. Gotta go..
June 15, 2009 at 4:37 pm
David Icke talked about chemtrails, reptillians, and now the government classifying all incoming meteors and he didnt connect his dot as he likes to instruct others. When he was asked about the reason for the daily chemtrails, he pulled a politician move, he avoided the hell out of the question and hid behind “they have multiple purposes” but you could tell he knew!!!
And if David is in the USA on Oct 10, hes gonna find another BIG dot he can connect.
Souls are not physical, they are imprisoned by matter.
June 15, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Stef, please don’t get nasty again, especially to a newcomer. Celline rarely posts now thanks to condescending attitudes from several of you guys. And now a new lady dares come and post here, and has to put up with your put-down attitude (pun intended).
Nightmareskies (I shall call you NMS for short from now on, your nick is too hard to type), welcome here. Most of what you say makes sense to me, and I believe you when you say that your husband’s breathing problems are caused by the chems.
I need to have my window open when I sleep (even in the winter), otherwise I feel like I need air (yes, I am somewhat claustrophobic).
When I wake up on the morning with my breathing really bad, I know that we have chemtrails in the sky. It has ALWAYS proven true. I obviously didn’t know about what was happening in my sleep.
Celline and I managed to find each other outside this blog, and we have e-mailed each other almost daily since (and sometimes several times a day) We have also talked on the phone.
If you want to e-mail with both of us (I expect Celline will agree, but I’ll make sure), send me an e-mail to ursulamargrit@yahoo.com .
I am not worried about anybody hijacking that e-mail, as I only use it when signing up for things and expect spam. I usually never check it. Post here if you are e-mailing me, and I’ll check it, and give you another e-mail address.
Make sure to put ‘chemtrails’ into the subject line when e-mailing me, so I know it is you and not somebody sending me nasty stuff.
I hope to hear from you soon!
June 15, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Huh, there’s not a link on this thread to Prince talking about chemtrails and their effects from when he was a kid? I think this stuff has been going on a lot longer than many realize. Perhaps previously it was on a much smaller scale and more localized on so-called undesirable populations? Or he could be lying, but I doubt it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOGUqXRXPts&eurl=http://www.prisonplanet.com/prince-talks-about-chemtrails-in-rare-tv-interview.html&feature=player_embedded
Me, when I first learned of chemtrails I noticed a correlation between certain sufferings I had and the timing of chemtrail appearances. My sufferings – I had prior to learning about chemtrails – which I couldn’t determine any correlation to anything other than perhaps insects or mites of some small kind, maybe they were the ones being irritated? When I first learned of chemtrails, there were frequently many days without a single jet in the sky. Of course it is possible it is, “all in my head” but I don’t think so. I don’t think my head is capable of making irritating bumps appear on my arms, neck and scalp, coincidently often only on areas exposed directly to the air. Of which, thank God, I’m not exactly suffering badly from anymore. I lean towards mites being the culprit. Pollens that cause allergies do not appear year round. Pollution that are irritants are not found in different States concentrated enough to cause the same effect, think Wisconsin farmland vs. a far away city. Or, put on a long sleeve shirt and my arms were ok vs. a short sleeve shirt and they were not.
There was a time, around 1996-2001 I forget when exactly, I also experience some respiratory problems, I thought it was from pollution. Had to have the windows open too. Then one day it simply stopped, with no change on my part, that I know of. It could be from when I briefly switched cigarette brands, who knows?
I don’t know about others, but I’m not a weak picky sensitive hypochondriac. I’m an outdoor, kick-butt, get in the mix, get dirty/bloody/bruised and go kind of guy. But I am becoming more picky as a result of all this. Maybe that’s why this whole ordeal bothers me so much, I should be able to shake it off & keep going. Or it is from getting old? Too many variables.
@Dude, yeah I thought the power lines in my house might be the cause too. However, I think the signals would increase as I put the probe closer to the walls and they don’t. I touch the probe and it did signal. It could be something like a stray ground up from the floor to me I suppose, as people are not supposed to be able to feel that stuff. Animals do, but I don’t have one to ask if they feel any stray voltages. Heh. I don’t know, it’s just something I noticed. The probe seems to work ok, it’s kind of fun testing stuff. And, it’s not indicating any current or voltage now.
I do know that IF there were any HAARP signals being beamed about they would be measurable, with what tool, I don’t know.
@eric, I thought electrical/magnetic is a physical entity…
Dude says, Souls are not physical, they are imprisoned by matter.
Interesting…. but ok, I won’t go there.
If that guy on Infowars is talking about reptiles, every skeptical person would automatically dismiss everything, including chemtrails.
I didn’t know about the killing of the trees out West. I knew about the moths, I read about bird die-offs, but not the trees.
June 15, 2009 at 5:16 pm
@Uschi, agreed, if she contacts you, please give her mine too.
Indeed this blog was the best I have ever seen, emph. on WAS!!!
It’s no longer caring about the other.. it’s put down at certain ones, mainly me. Too bad, because we all have important things to share.
About the putdowns: It seems to be aimed at Christians.. and this.. we are use to, Uschi, right? It’s our NewAge world, where everything goes.. except Christianity. “Truth” gave up too.. it seems..
I am not going to vary from what I know and blog.. regardless of put downs. But I will not respond to what I consider ” u know what I mean”
I feel it is important to attract people who have imput, or need help, may it be physical.. or in any other way, because we understand, and are willing to share, the good and the bad. Kindness should be up front, and if you need to spew anger or otherwise negative stuff.. why not go elsewhere ? Plenty of that out there.
June 15, 2009 at 5:26 pm
About the trees in the West. This I noticed already about 30 years ago, starting in YellowStone Park. All the trees there turned brown, and I was told ,it is a bug. Huge fires started, and they burned out by themselves. no firefighter attempted to stop them. Meanwhile this problem moved South.
By now, the problem is here, in Southern Cal, same thing.
All” needle-trees ” are turning brown.. huge fires are the result.
Indeed America’s Westcoast will lose all it’s Forrests. Huge watershortages, because the chems are stopping the rain. ( Cloudseeding?) .. it is just endless. Our weather here , in June, is the craziest we have ever seen. Clouds , Fake ones of course.. and cold.
Our vegetation is not the same. Don’t walk barefoot, because there are dead bees on the ground everywhere.
God help us all.
June 15, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Hey Dude..I agree with your synopsis of David Icke. You might have mentioned that Alex doesn’t seem to hold an opinion except to say that these toxins contain nanobots and that they apply different chemtrails to different regions and at different times.
My take follows the Hopi prophecy which says that that chemtrail rainbow around the sun for 7 days in a row is the end of time. I’ve photographed this phenomenon about 4 times in a row in the last 4 years. Usually happens in the extreme heat of mid summer. I think we all know what it means when the sun refracts through the crap and a rainbow sometimes accompaniet by sun dogs, appears.
As for “the goils”, I appreciate all of your comments but please be assured that the bible is a corrupt doc and you need to use the sense that God gave you.
June 15, 2009 at 6:21 pm
clark: if youre using a voltmeter then you dont know much about whatever signal youre picking up but i assure you its not from rf. voltmeters seldom read over 1kHz. I know that bodies have voltage induced from the electrical wiring, fairly independent of location and itll show a nice sine wave on a scope. To measure rf, especially when trying to locate and identify a signal, then you need a spectrum analyzer. The HP models we used were about 30-50 grand depending on options.
The ancient texts (all of them) say souls are not physical and are trapped in matter. I have no data to prove or disprove but theres tons of recorded psychic phenomena.
reptillians are mentioned in the Bible. Eve was not talking to a “snake” as we know them. reptillians are drawn and described all over the earth, like the great flood and Nibiru. To dismiss them because others think you are nuts is incredibly stupid! Ridicule is the technique used by govt liars all over the net. I have come to despise people who do this. if you never saw an ocean or lake and somebody told you there was a “fish” in an “ocean”, you might think they were nuts but in reality you would be the fool. telling most people about aliens of any type is very much like telling a 5 year old boy that one day he will like girls. you know its true, and you know when he grows up he will know it too but there is no way you can make him believe it until he experiences it. ridiculing alien existence is just another form of being childish and immature, especially for the people who SAY they believe the Bible.
eric: yea, alex throws out the dog-bone to pacify those who think theyre pursuing the truth but hes throwing the bone the wrong way. Alex knows damn good and well what the chemtrails are for just like david but theyre not going to dare say it. david even put all the dots right in front of everybody but he didnt connect them. I guess I dont balme them now…what happens when all the idiots of the world realize theyre about to be wiped out? all of this couldve been avoided though by telling the truth in 1983 when they found it.
And that Bible you say is corrupt is full of incredible details describing this country, the political situation and the war thats about to destroy us. theres tons of scientific stuff in it thats been proven now but you wont be told about it. jonathan grays books share a lot of this info.
June 15, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Celline says – If you need to spew anger or otherwise negative stuff…why not go elsewhere ? Plenty of that out there.
Exactly, Celline ! I was hoping to avoid that here because most of us who are awakened to chemtrails face hostility and ridicule to some degree on a daily basis as we try to awaken the chemtrail deniers in our personal lives.
Stef, my symptoms are most definitely NOT psychsomatic . As I mentioned,I am extremely energy sensitive and have always been in high attunement with my body. These physical symptoms appeared before I even knew what was in the chemtrails . Remember, I was a skeptic and at first the chemtrails were just a visual phenomenon to me. I know different now of course : – ( It’s always tempting to try to explain away someone else’s symptoms . However, don’t fall into the self-referential trap simply because you are breathing the same air and not suffering identical symptoms.This is always a mistake. Remember, we are individuals with unique immune systems. What affects me today will maybe not affect you until ??? Think of me as the canary in the coal mine.
Like you Ursula, I always know when they are spraying us without even looking outside – low grade headache, plugged sinuses and continually interrupted sleep.
A couple of the most disturbing symptoms which I forgot to mention earlier are brain fog and a profound loss of equilibrium ( poor balance, dizziness). Why did I forget to mention them ? Was it the brain fog or the fact that they produce no pain ?
June 15, 2009 at 6:52 pm
The photos of chemtrails I’ve seen so far, are not global, as far as I can tell. What places don’t have them? If a southern view is telling, what about other countries? Is the internet very limited and restricted in places such as South America and South Africa? None of us (not just here) knows Spanish or Portuguese enough to find out what they are seeing down there? Aren’t some online newspapers in German? Anyone know German enough to tell if they know anything? Just wondering.
Argentina in German:
http://www.tageblatt.com.ar/
List of South African newspapers in English:
http://www.ipl.org/div/news/browse/ZA/
I haven’t found any info or places to ask what their skys are like, yet.
@Dude, yeah, the electrical probe is just a simple voltage and current detector, it’s either on or off.
It says in the instructions it can be set off by RF.
The reptilian thing, I wasn’t saying what I thought about it, just that the masses would not accept info about chemtrails if it was accompanied by discussions of reptilians. Baby steps were required, sounds like that guy on Infowars took a leap and left everyone hanging in midair, from the way you described it. A cliffhanger?
June 15, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Ericswan….hello neighbor. I’m in Kelowna and a huge AJ fan.
Check out :
OKANAGANCHEMTRAILS.BLOG.CA/
OKANAGANCHEMTRAILS(dot)BLOG(dot)CA/
use small letters …srry computer troubles and can’t do links right now.
This blog is an excellent chemtrail site and is run by a fellow in Kelowna.
On the lefthand side you will see “Recent Posts “.
Scroll down to ” more posts ” ( in small blue letters ) and click on that.
A second screen will appear with awesome info and docs.
Go to ” Next Page ” and you will find the fabulous chemtrail documentary ” Don’t Talk About the Weather “. If you haven’t seen it already, everyone on this forum needs to watch this film. It’s MUST SEE ! It comes in 27 parts of 10 minutes each.
Devilvision- The World’s New Wireless Grid ( also found at this site) is a great source of info on HAARP and the phased array antennae systems . CH 4 and CH 5 are must read. The info is very technical and difficult to absorb and understand in it’s entirety as I’m not a quantum physicist, but I hope everyone gives it a try .
June 15, 2009 at 7:56 pm
@MNS thank you, I looked it up, watched 1/2 of it, and put it in my faves. When I have time I will look thru all of it.
Aaron Russo is about the Best.. when it comes to looking for info.
Now.. I would love to find something that offers Solutions.. we know about the Problems.
About our Souls to be affected ! This one doesen’t go for me, or any other Christian. I can say :” No weapon formed against me shall prosper” because: GOD is Greater…. and my soul belongs to Him.
He created everything including us… He has more power.. ultimate power, to do anything. Surely.. to protect us, his most precious creation.
This is my strength, my Hope.. my everything. Indeed..w.out God.. we would have only despair ! So.. I hope amd pray, all of you have this certainty, and peace.
As to the Scriptures: The infallible Word of God !
June 15, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Listen, Nightmare, don’t be wagging your claw at me.
I said that there are lots of other factors can affect our health in these endtimes, not just the chemtrails.
And then there were three…
Eric: “Hopi prophecy which says that that chemtrail rainbow around the sun for 7 days in a row is the end of time.”
I read somewhere of another Hopi prophecy, “When the globe is covered over by a (spider’s) web, will be the end of time.” Heard of that one?
I prophecy we’re all kaput.
As for my soul, I agree with Dude…imprisoned.
Maybe later,
911=USrael
June 15, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Good job Celline. Better to duck and cover than deal with your paradigm.
Kelowna sucks|. Just kidding. The author of Devilvision is a friend of mine. To tell you the truth, I don’t get much of what he is saying. Will check out your link and see what’s up down your way.
As for bee ness, I think most of my flower beds are being serviced by butterflys these days. My plum tree has zero fruit on it this year.
Stef..read about the spider web thingy and thought it was very appropos. Have you seen a pic of “Prophecy Rock”? It’s the sandstone with a swastika on it. My mom and dad lived south and east of a little village in N. Ont. called Swastika. I’ve always had a problem demonizing that symbol. With regard to the swastika on Prophecy Rock, I have seen artifacts in native culture and elsewhere, where the swastika is an honoured symbol. The NWO is not stupid. They incorporate true symbols including Christianity, and you name it into their meme. Numerology is an important feature in their dogma. Scripture is full of that sort of thing and we need to know what the powers that be are thinking regardless of our personal belief system
Duck and cover…
June 16, 2009 at 12:29 am
@eric: I never in my life ducked and covered.. I always faced things headon. But.. whatever u say.. I don’t much care.
Probably have seen and been thru more in life than you.. and have learned ” to FACE”… ! To be a christian means, to face stuff.. because if u don’t.. you can’t even be one !
This Blog used to be great !!!
June 16, 2009 at 2:25 am
Just for us ladies :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXTPfxtbWUc&feature=channel_page
I loved this cartoon. It’s been pretty much my experience when trying to awaken others.
I hope you enjoy this Uschi and Celline.
PS – Thnx so much for the copy/paste instructions Uschi : – ) I’m always so busy googling that I take absolutely no time to learn how to use this computer .
June 16, 2009 at 3:06 am
Watch the effects of HAARP ELF and ULF energy on this bee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91hW6nOqpE
This is how my sparrows died ! My husband came home every day in mid-January to dead/dying/staggering sparrows . This was so sad for us to watch. We fed them every day and even had a heated water dish for them. My backyard was always alive with birds. The sparrows especially loved to gather on the chain link fence, but no longer. They’re gone. I was still picking their little dead bodies out of my shrub beds this spring.
The quail, red-winged blackbirds, hawks, chicadees, woodpeckers,and juncos made it but the sparrows for some reason must be much more energy sensitive and were wiped out.
HAARP definitely affected my other birds this spring ( but didn’t kill them ALL off, like my sparrows). So, normally we would have a few birds every season crash into the windows ( usually the juvenile, inexperienced flyers).But this spring was unreal. We would hear…BANG…BANG…BANG….3 birds at a time would crash hard into the windows within seconds of each other. And there was no hope of us reviving them. These birds were so disoriented that they crashed HARD and died on impact. In past yrs we could usually save about half of the victims because they only had concussions.
Chemtrails are the medium….HAARP is the method.
Silent weapons for quiet wars.
June 16, 2009 at 3:38 am
I’d like to share some thoughts on Nikola Telsa and the importance of frequency. Think of an opera singer with a glass in her hand. When her note hits the resonant frequency of the glass, nothing else is adversely affected except for the glass. It shatters. Likewise, soldiers are trained to break cadence when crossing a bridge because if they march in unison and if their beat matches the resonant frequency of the bridge, the bridge collapses.
Tesla was a master when it came to frequency. Once he attached a small clock sized vibrator onto a steel beam in his lab. He watched as huge equipment started ” walking ” across his lab. When tens of thousands of windows within a few miles of his lab shattered, and as people fled into the streets because they thought it was an earthquake, Tesla took a sledge hammer to the vibrator and ended that particular experiment.
The earth has a natural resonant frequency that is beneficial for the health of all life on this planet. This frequency is being deliberately tampered with via HAARP and the other 50 phased array attennae systems around the world.This energy is much more harmful and far more powerful than the electromagnetic smog fields created by industrialization ( cell phones etc ).
Tesla gave us AC electricity. He ( not Marconi) gave us radio. Tesla coils are used in TV and computers.He wanted to give us free energy ( etheric energy), but J P Morgan stopped him. When he died the USA govt seized 37 trunks of his research material. The satanic bastards have co-opted Tesla’s genius and science and are using it to soft-kill us.
June 16, 2009 at 8:33 am
Nightmare: They most certainly did! I believe Tesla said, “I can split worlds asunder.”
Eric: Witnesses report having seen Lucifer’s face in the smoke&fire of 911. The photos/videos I’ve seen certainly confirm “something” there — Satan, along with a few of his minions? Plain old smoke? Like chems, some see them, others don’t. I do.
Again, the documentary “The Arrivals,” delves into one possible theory: The Luci-lovers managed to open the portal to the underwold on 911.
A few episodes are redundant etc., but the later episodes are excellent. (46 episodes)
Hope I got this right: Kabbalah has 10 levels, the 10th being God.
Luciferians skipped God, or dismissed God, and jumped over the number 10, hence 9 – 11.
That’s the number we’ve been told to dial when in danger etc.. How clever and underhanded those Satanists are! In accordance with their beliefs they’ve had us dismissing God right along with them! Ha!
I’m sure you realize the many ironies of those precise numbers on that precise date and all the rest of the “coincidental” numbers in the architecture etc.
Think it’s Icke explained: Everything about 911 points to a mega ritual to open a star gate. WTC 1&2 represent the two pillars Jachin and Boaz of Solomons temple.
Know thine enemy, eh, Eric? I concur. As you said, numerology is of the greatest import for them. Every catastrophe they’ve inflicted on the world has occured on specific dates, times, seasons…all are interconnected and so on.
It’s a double-whammy against us really: They not only have ancient occult knowledge, but also possess super-advanced technology/science. In addition, and it’s no small addition, they are totally insane.
I’ll check out what you cited, Eric. Thanks.
NB: Celline is an immutable force re. the Babble. God’s diary, if you will. He started scribbling everything down, you see, on the Sunday he requested, “Let there be light…”
Thanks,
911=USrael
June 16, 2009 at 10:05 am
Interesting thread.
I woke up on last Saturday morning to what was going to be a beautiful day. The sun was indeed shining but the clouds that appeared in the horizon were all PINK! Weird. Never seen that before.
My head sounds like that…
June 16, 2009 at 10:15 am
Hello Nightmareskies,
Welcome! I appreciate your interesting comments. I very much agree that Tesla’s knowledge has somehow been co-opted into the secretive HAARP program. There are so many elements to this puzzle. Remember the Bible quote from Hosea 4:6? “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge….”
We try here to keep the knowledge and information quotient high…..and overall I think we are pretty successful. We live in “interesting times” indeed….
Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 16, 2009 at 11:20 am
I just want to answer some questions somebody asked yesterday.
Yes, I still speak perfect German, and so does Celline. I have found plenty of YouTube videos and websites in German that show that there is heavy chemtrailing happening in Germany, Switzerland and Austria as well.
The German military has said that those are training exercises. People are protesting, saying that the Americans are spraying. The USA can do anything they want in Germany since the war, and nobody can stop them.
I remember 30 years ago, when my husband and I went on our honeymoon in place called ‘Lueneburger Heide’, which is a large area of heather and hills south of Hamburg. It is supposed to be a protected wilderness reserve.
Yet TANKS were in large areas of it, destroying it!
Anyway, yes, many Germans, Austrians and Swiss people are aware of the spraying and very angry, but it is the same as here…….. they can’t stop it.
We went to Mexico last year in February to visit friends there. We flew into Mexico City, and then had to take a bus (a three hour bus ride) to our destination, Queretaro.
I just looked at my pictures again, to see if there were chemtrails (I only started my research this year in February). I really didn’t think I’d see any, since it was sunny and beautiful. But I actually found quite a few chemclouds. Some obvious chemtrails near Mexico City, but in pictures my husband took of himself and his friend going up a mountain, there are chemclouds in the background.
I also looked at the pictures I took when I was in Hamburg, Germany, during the summer of 2007. But since Hamburg has always had rainy summers and clouds cover isn’t anything unusual, I couldn’t see anything out of the ordinary in those pictures.
My takeoff pictures from Toronto airport show clearly going through chemclouds on the way up to cruising altitude. And the pictures I took of ‘neat clouds’ below us on the way back are nearly all the way those velcro chemclouds!
NMS, I watched the cartoon video you linked to (and a few more by the same lady). She is doing a good job, I hope lots of people watch her stuff.
Celline, you need to watch it, and then click on some of her other videos, she is in San Diego, too.
June 16, 2009 at 11:22 am
Solsburyhill, where do you live?
June 16, 2009 at 11:25 am
Lots of bees in my yard! The whole neighbourhood has been plagued white translucent grubs that eat up lawns at incredible speed. Chems? Maybe.
Everybody ran out, well, not everybody, but lots and spent thousands to rid themselves of the pest and re-seed or re-the-other-thing their lawns These people are lawn-crazy, I tell you.
I purchased a small bag of German white clover, waited for rain (not to long) and bid farewell to grubs and weeds wherever the clover grows. As a bonus, plenty of honeybees! Danke Deutschland!
Auf wiedersehen!
June 16, 2009 at 11:43 am
Stef, are you German, too?
I haven’t seen a single honeybee this far in my neck of the woods. I have seen three bumble bees since summer started. Hardly any wasps, either (and usually they are a real pest).
June 16, 2009 at 11:55 am
Hallo Ursa,
I live in Sweden. Plenty of spraying here as well, and I get the impression that these activities have intensified lately.
…….and, of course, noone finds this anything abnormal…
June 16, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Telescopic aid…http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/
June 16, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Dude made an inquiry awhile back about member’s preparedness. In my opinion we have to prepare to be off the grid. Any sort of atmospheric disturbance ie. neutron or atomic bomb in the high atmosphere wipes out all electronic devices. As the bible says, let’s hope it doesn’t come in winter.
This means cars won’t work; anything electric including the power system generators will be wiped out. Most people won’t have access to water if it is electricity and not gravity dependent. Trucks won’t bring food and cashiers won’t be working.
So where does that leave you? The people of Haiti survived their economic collapse/famine by eating mud pies. Many people have survived a crisis by eating grass. The Mormons are required by church law to put food up that will last a couple of years. There are charts on the net which Mormons use in deciding what foods to put aside. These charts indicate that wheat will store and still be viable for 20 years. Nuts, seeds, and beans are viable for 5 years.
Obviously, water filtration will be absolutely essential and not a week after the taps are shut off..right now.. There is an organization called CAWST that can help you filter toxic water. My preference is an industrial mineral called ZEOLITE that will remove nuclear isotopes from drinking water. Zeolite is found worldwide. It’s used as medicine in small quantities but can be purchased by the ton for a couple of hundred dollars.
June 16, 2009 at 1:25 pm
For the new people:
The chemtrails are to hide our 10th planet Nibiru. This is why they are now global and are sprayed every day. Nibiru is also the reason the US govt is now classifying all meteor events as secret.
http://www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html
This is the sign in the heavens that warns of the War of Armageddon which will see Russia, China and the SCO destroy America on 10-10-09. Russia has told us they will nuke us over Iran for 2 year now but its not on the liebox.
Its the story told many many times in the Bible, numerous other ancient texts and a great deal of the prophecies ever written.
ALL the news is here:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6519605/WarNews
June 16, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Zeolite — some say yes, some no.
What’s it doing for you, Eric? How much to buy the first time?
I drink pure apricot juice with a smidge of baking soda and a 1000mg caplet of vit. C everyday.
Found the “recipe” online on this health nut site.
Maybe that’s why I’m less affected than most re. chems?
I don’t know. This is like chasing rainbows…not the ethethylen type, the real kind.
I’ve got bottles of bleach to purify water.
Thanks for your telescope info link.
I’m buying the full lens and filter kit + a sun filter/lense (?) on Friday. After which, no more gadgets for a while. This stuff doesn’t come cheap.
No, not German. Studied for a few months. Love the language. Love languages in general. I’m polyglot, as are most of us here, I think.
June 16, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Quickly for those interested this article:
“Protein For Vegetarians & the ‘Beans & Rice’ Myth.”
Ta.
June 16, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Sorry:
http://www.rense.com/general86/beans.htm
Ta2
June 16, 2009 at 2:51 pm
What about crop circles?
Do they have any relation to chemtrails?
As it is above so shall it be below, sorta thing?
June 16, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Well Stef..I think they do.. here’s an interview with one of those cosmic Christians serving Jesus from a spaceship near you…(not kidding here)
http://web.mac.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Documentaries/Entries/2009/5/29_EVIDENT_FOOTPRINTS_MEETS_THE_UNITED_GALACTIC_FEDERATION%2C_GALAXY_OF_HENDON.html
June 16, 2009 at 3:42 pm
@solsbury, welcome to you, I have much wondered about Sweden..now I know ! And all European countries will have to tell their people: The Americans are doing it ! And so, there’s nothing we can do.
I have always wondered, WHY American military remains in every country.. they fought a war ! They stay, not for their protection.. yet, to be in place for the NWO, clear as glass. Besides.. they are UN.. not ” American ” exclusively. NMS I watched that cartoon, great to pass on, thanx for putting it out there.
I wonder.. who told the Mormons ( in the 19th century ) that they would need foodstorage. I have M. relatives and can testefy.. they are armed to the gills.. and have huge food and waterstorages.. all of them, all the time, each generation. So.. who told Josef????? He was a Mason, and a magician, he knew more than we do now, I s’pose. There’s other things they wanted to do.. but our government would not let them.
1 is so politically incorrect, I don’t even dare mention it here.
Has to do with a certain race. Sky again.. full of lumps today.. little tiny lumps that look like small pox… sickening to see. My German company, coming tonight.. will get their peepers opened !
cheers
June 16, 2009 at 4:00 pm
stef: we have had two crop circles that i know of that show a winged disc. it looks just like the ones from ancient egypt and the one where they forgot to airbrush Nibiru out of a SOHO pic. theyre all in my doc now and some new news….like a china sub destroying a pull-behind sonar array last week.
June 16, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Have you seen the “formation, measuring 150ft in diameter, is apparently a coded image representing the first 10 digits, 3.141592654, of pi.” and and the most recent, a 400ft. Phoenix?
600ft. jellyfish? Alien face holding the globe?
Serioulsy, I can’t wait to see the BIG PICTURE! Even if I live but a mere few hours or minutes after the unveiling — I WANT TO SEE IT!
You?
Appreciate all info and follow up on everything.
June 16, 2009 at 4:19 pm
stef: nice page from rense about protein. rense is one of my fav news sites.
heres the SOHO web address. nibiru pic is on 3-27-2009 @ 03:18
http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/soho_movie_theater
June 16, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Yea, I saw all of those. UFOs been very interesting to me from when i was very little. that globe the alien face is holding is a binary coded message in spanish, and awesome. it goes something like:
there is still time
believe there is still good out there
we dont like deceit
beware the bearers of false presents and broken promises
Heres a couple links about it:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=10628340
http://yowusa.com/scp/maurice2004/1.shtml
There is also a cropcircle replica of the message we sent with one of the voyagers and one of a solar system drawing warning about Nibiru.
June 16, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Dude: Glad you like Rense. Didn’t mention it ’cause I thought everybody here knew about it already. It’s been around so long.
Starting point for most of my research.
It’s solid.
Thanks. Dinner awaits. Check all links with coffee after.
June 16, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Check out these orbs captured by a fellow in Vernon ( just north of where I live ).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LreaR1G2uKA&feature=channel_page
Those are not clouds in the background. The chem spray for over a yr here is so dense that the skies turn a dark gray.
The orbs are monitoring the chemspray.
I am convinced that chemspray here is far worse than other places. We have the perfect conditions for them to conduct their ghastly experiments. Kelowna is the least windy city in all of Canada. Plus being in a valley, the chem crap just hangs over us. I have watched the jets clear the hills/mountains that surround us and once they are over the population centres they turn on the spray.
Today is day 7 without a break in their operations. I’m looking at what passes for the sun these days…. a ghostly pale glow almost entirely swallowed by the toxic haze. Even the moon is brighter.
June 16, 2009 at 10:40 pm
@Dude, I was going to check out the SOHO pic, but I need more info than you gave, I think. There are a number of options. What would I be seeing then anyway? A round funky colored moon type sphere? The two I did see were not pretty but it was interesting, like a blob of molten pig iron.
I wonder if crop circles are mans bored practice with some kind of remote etch-a-sketch, a HAARP capability ripped off from Tesla notes? The really intricate designs seem kind of pointless when in crops. If it was done in some long lasting rocks, I could see there being some point.
The bee movie was pretty wild, I’ve never seen bees up close like that before. What was it on the legs, honey or mites? I really suspect either mites or the bees are attracted to one of the substances in the chemtrail that is bad for them, much like they love to take dynamite back to the hive. Or HAARP. Or,… who knows. I’m starting to feel … I dunno, like there is no more info to be had, no point to having more info.
The last few days have been mostly all white background with rain, and a few of those cotton ball clouds. What little breaks in the sky we did get, lots of jet work going on high up, with the newer quicker dissipating stuff.
Then I hit refresh, and bam! some new info, movies of orbs.
@NMS, talk about no wind. We haven’t had much wind either, there are far too many days when the clouds just sit and hang and there is such a stillness it’s eerie.
June 16, 2009 at 10:56 pm
NMS, I will follow your link in a moment, it looks interesting.
By the way, guys, those crop circles have been shown to be hoaxes, made by people for the fun of stumping others.
Here is an interesting article, titled, “Debunking Chemtrail Debunkers” http://www.rense.com/general30/deby.htm
Today we’ve had relentless spraying from morning until sunset, and for all I know it is still going on, now that it is dark.
So, I have taken about 500 pictures only today! I started this morning, out of my upstairs window (I can do that without my husband or daughter noticing).
I went with my daughter to the chiropractor in the late afternoon, and took pictures of those chems while driving. She got really mad at me, calling me stupid and ‘totally obsessed with chemtrails, which isn’t normal’ (in her opinion).
I asked her if she can’t see that those aren’t clouds, but are being deliberately sprayed by planes. And she said that she agreed those were chemtrails, but told me she didn’t care and that it made no difference to her, and to shut up, because she didn’t want to talk about stupid chemtrails.
Later, close to sunset, my husband had to go to a meeting, and so I told my daughter I needed to go and buy some groceries for my husband’s birthday dinner tomorrow night (which was true).
But first I went to a spot on a hill on a side road, with farmer’s fields on both sides, and took pictures. Then I went shopping, and returned to that spot, as the sun was now really going down.
So, here I was, standing in a farmer’s field at sunset, being eaten alive by blackflies and mosquitoes, taking pictures of that chemical sunset with new chemtrails still being sprayed as I was taking the pictures. Me, who is absolutely paranoid about blackflies and mosquitoes, and I normally NEVER purposely expose myself to them!
I actually managed to ignore them, so I could take the pictures. I am covered in welts, but it was worth it to have the evidence. Good thing nobody in my family knows I did that. Otherwise they’d really declare me insane.
When I went to the mailbox to check the mail in the early afternoon, I took my camera with me in my pocket to take pictures (it’s a great spot to overlook much of the sky), and a girl, about ten or eleven came to check the mail, too (those are community mailboxes for the whole street). When she asked me what I was taking pictures of, I showed her the chemtrails.
She agreed that if that trail that started on the horizon in the west was a real contrail, it shouldn’t be going over our heads and going all the way to the east as we were talking, but should have disappeared long ago.
I hope I didn’t make her parents too angry by showing the kid that the whole sky was covered in chemtrails, and that those clouds weren’t real clouds.
Of course, they may have just told her I am nuts. But at least I made her think. And she saw a chemtrail being sprayed with her own eyes. I bet she’ll keep looking up now.
June 16, 2009 at 11:06 pm
NMS, I watched that video. I really think that UFOs are only unidentified objects, because they have to do with secret government operations. I truly don’t believe in aliens from other planets.
So, those UFOs being there to supervise the chemtrail spraying is as good an explanation as any, as far as I am concerned.
June 16, 2009 at 11:34 pm
nms: nice orb vids. I may have caught one myself but not sure.
clark: yea, choose the LASCO C3 image type. you can pick whatever resolution you want. date = 3-27-2009. the pic on that one looks just like the winged disc from ancient egypt and two crop circles. Try looking at other days. there seems to be a lot of stuff in there.
ursa: those chemtrails have been shown to be hoaxes, made by planes at certain humidity and altitudes which leaves persistent contrails. dont worry though, you will have plenty days to take more pictures of them because they are hiding that other hoax, the planet Nibiru.
June 17, 2009 at 12:00 am
Dude, what the heck is your problem? When did I say that chemtrails are hoaxes? I posted a link that is about debunking the debunkers. As in, proving the government shills wrong, who claim chemtrails are just persistent contrails.
Didn’t you read my long post? I took pics of chems all day today, as the whole sky was covered in them. And being out there under that awful sky for hours today certainly didn’t do my health any good.
But you have zero proof of that elusive planet Nibiru, as far as I am concerned.
I do believe that revelation talks about a comet hitting the earth at some point. But I don’t believe it will have anything to do with a mystical planet Nibiru.
June 17, 2009 at 12:07 am
Oh, Dude, and if you think that those orbs are real UFOs, as in alien space ships, the government has made them up to hide their activity in the skies.
How do you think anybody would live on your imaginary planet Nibiru? If it has that crazy ‘orbit’ you claim it has, then for most of the time it is way too far away from the sun to be warm enough to even have an atmosphere. Meaning, no life could possibly exist on it.
June 17, 2009 at 12:19 am
seems Nibiru is a brown dwarf with planets of its own. Whatever the case, it is coming and there are others in space too. We are the lowly lifeforms in the universe.
I thought you believed your Bible or are you like Truth, just believe what you want to?
June 17, 2009 at 1:13 am
Dude, NOWHERE in the Bible does it say there are life forms on other planets.
And why the heck would another SUN with planets of its own orbit around our sun? This is getting more convoluted all the time.
I really, really don’t believe that the chemtrails are supposed to hide anything other than the sky (maybe to make people despondent and depressed, which works to a degree with Celline and I am sure others, and/or mind control via drugs in the trails, or bacteria and viruses to make people sick……. who knows).
And we are NOT lowly life forms, what nonsense. The Bible says that we were made in God’s image. Hardly sounds like lowly life forms to me.
I have a great book recommendation for you. I own this book, and it gives answers to all the ‘alien’ and UFO questions. http://www.alienintrusion.com/main.html
June 17, 2009 at 1:15 am
By the way, that book also clearly shows that ALL crop circles are man-made. Yes, even the most intricate ones.
June 17, 2009 at 1:31 am
Hi Uschi…. and, whoever cares, my German company is here.. having a great time. As usual we had plenty of Chems and I showed them to them.
Know what they said ? ” Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm”.. that’s all !
Hmmmmmmmmm, well at least, I get to show them some more tomorrow in the desert, and I hope I will get something more out of them, except:’ HMMMMMMMM ” This guy is a Dr.. specializing in the LUNGS ! Now tomorrow, I’ll ask him, what will happen if we keep breathing this stuff. I hope for a decent reply.. at least some interest.. outside of “hmmmmmmm” we’ll see.
June 17, 2009 at 1:33 am
Uschi.. u can’t tell Dude anything.. he knows better than any of us.
Correct, UFOs at Best.. are human engeneered and built flying things.. w. absolutely Nada one Alien in it .. !
June 17, 2009 at 2:12 am
Ursa, your book is govt propaganda just like the them saying theres no chemtrails. Read your Bible. It describes a lot of pretty amazing things in that area but most of it has been removed.
Even without all the evidence yall obviously havent seen, and with all the billions of stars in each of the billions of galaxies, one would have to be an extremely arrogant individual to think there are no others out there.
You both are whack. you KNOW that nobody would spray stuff in the air. Those contrails have been around for as long as planes and you are just plain nuts!
June 17, 2009 at 2:14 am
oh yea, 80% of the known star systems are binary systems, meaning theres two stars orbiting each other.
June 17, 2009 at 2:50 am
Today was a typical chemtrail day from hell. Overcast before the sun came up and trails through the haze when the sun went down. It looks and sounds like a full on blitz is taking place over North America.
I’m not sure about aliens visiting but I’m sure we have the technology to be colonizing Mars, the moon and Saturn and the rest of us know nothing about it. I believe flying saucers have been used by the military/secret government here and elsewhere for decades.
June 17, 2009 at 2:54 am
hahaha, I get it..
The plan is : to now deny the chems, in the hope, we will change our minds and believe in nibiru whateva….
Childish bologna wasen’t planned for this blog.. but: here it goes.
Whack, good word I just learned, agreed, Dude is Whack.
June 17, 2009 at 3:05 am
Hey Celline..get some sleep..you have a big day ahead with the good docktor. Ask him why there is so much respiratory disruption around the world.
Hey Dude.. I don’t know about 80% but there is alot of this binary stuff out there. Whether our sun and a brown dwarf are part of that remains to be seen.
I have to wonder about the clockwork of the universe when we see the eclipse of the sun with a perfect fit of the moon over it. That’s really out there if you think about it. On April 11, 1996, the comet Hyakutake conjuncted the star Algol. On April 11, 1997, the comet Hale-Bopp conjuncted the star Algol. On Jan. 21, 2008, the comet 17p/Holmes conjuncted Algol. Algol has been associated with Satan for thousands of years and on every continent, it and comets are considered to be evil omens. Any thoughts? If you would like to see the evidence I will post links.
June 17, 2009 at 3:47 am
Dude, what crap, that book being government propaganda! That book is a Christian book, fully based on the Bible.
You claim you believe the Bible. If you do, you can’t believe in aliens.
Now, let’s assume space travel past what has been done is possible. It is a fallacy to believe that because things are weightless in space, that they are easy to move.
To propel a one-pound object to 50% the speed of light, it would take the energy of 98 Hiroshima sized atomic bombs (obviously, a space ship would weight an awful lot more). The speed of light is 300,000 km a second.
To traverse the Milky Way, it would take you 100,000 years at the speed of light. To get to the closest galaxy outside the Milky Way (Andromeda), it would take 2,300,000 years. The next galaxy after that would take 20 million years to reach (all assuming it was possible to travel in a spacecraft at the speed of light).
Here are some facts on the NASA space shuttle:
It takes eight minutes for the shuttle to accelerate to a speed of 17,000 miles per hour, the velocity required to enter Earth’s orbit. Escape velocity to leave the planet behind is 25,000 miles per hour.
The turbo pump on the space shuttle’s main engine is so powerful, it could drain an average size swimming pool in 25 seconds.
The space shuttle’s three main engines and two solid rocket boosters generate some 7.3 million pounds of thrust at liftoff.
If their heat energy would be converted to electric power, two boosters firing for two minutes only would produce 2.2 million kilowatt hours of power, enough to supply the entire power demand of 87,000 homes for a full day.
These details show that the space shuttle is an amazing piece of technology, which uses enormous amounts of energy. Yet it pales into insignificance in comparison to the energy requirements to propel a spaceship of the same size to anywhere near light speed.
It would require the energy of 23 million atomic bombs to achieve about 50% the speed of light (c). At 90% the speed of light, it would require the energy of 73 million atomic bombs, or 351 years of the combined power output of all U.S energy facilities.
Of course, once the spaceship reaches its destination, it needs to slow down. It requires the same amount of energy it took to get it going to slow down again. And then in order to return home, it needs energy to speed up and slow down again. Meaning, it needs four times the original energy requirements for the return journey (assuming no course-change is required along the way, which again uses energy).
Obviously, we don’t have enough energy to make it happen. And at the normal speed of the space shuttle, it would take 870,000 years to reach the next star in our own galaxy, Proxima Centauri.
Even if the power problems could be solved, there are other problems. For instance, objects in space. Space is NOT empty, there is a lot of dust floating around, as well as larger objects.
It is estimated that there are 100,000 dust particles per cubic kilometer in space. At light speed an impact with just ONE of these tiny particles would destroy a spaceship. Even at one-tenth the speed of light the impact would be equivalent to 10 tons of TNT. Encountering a pea sized object at only 50% of the speed of light would produce kinetic energy equal to 2.2 atomic bombs.
Detecting any objects, never mind ones as tiny as a speck of dust at ultra high speeds is impossible.
As a spacecraft accelerates or changes course, it would exert g forces on its occupants. A g force of 1 is equivalent to the Earth’s gravity. At 3 g’s, a fighter pilot could rupture the blood vessels in his eyes. At 5 g’s, the pilot would pass out, and 9 g’s would kill the pilot within seconds. Any further increase, and the plane would be torn apart. Changing directions at light speed would exert MILLIONS of g’s on the ship and its occupants!
Then there are cosmic rays. Prolonged exposure can be fatal. Also, being weightless for extended periods of time wastes away your muscles and you lose bone density. People having spent several months in a space station have been known to take up to several years to recover.
There are other problems, but this should hopefully be enough to make it clear that space travel for us, or any imaginary aliens is impossible. Distances are too vast, and too much energy is required to make it happen.
June 17, 2009 at 5:21 am
Far from telling people these doctrines were their own inventions, popes have often insisted that as \”Vicars of Christ\”, what they taught was \”the Gospel of Jesus Christ\”. Here are many examples of such doctrines and practices:
215 a.d. – First mention of infant baptism.
300 a.d. (circa) – Prayers for the dead.
300 a.d. – Making the sign of the cross .
320 a.d. – Wax Candles.
312 a.d. – Emperor Constantine converted (more or less).
321 a.d. – Constantine declared Sunday (rather than the biblical sabbath) a civil holiday (Holy Day).
325 a.d. – Council of Nicea, under Constantine\’s direction, adopts \”Creed\” and recognizes episcopacy.
375 a.d. – Veneration of angels and dead saints.
375 a.d. – The use of images. (Despite the third commandment \”Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.\”
394 a.d. – The Mass as a daily celebration.
394 a.d. – Council of Carthage: canonization of Scripture.
405 a.d. – Latin Vulgate Bible by Jerome.
407 a.d. – Edict of Innocent I: Compulsory infant baptism.
431 a.d. – The beginning of the exaltation of Mary. The title \”Mother of God\” originated with the Council of Ephesus.
500 a.d. – Priests begin to dress differently than laymen. .
526 a.d. – Extreme Unction formalized.
529 a.d. – First monastic order begun by Benedict of Nursia.
593 a.d. – The doctrine of purgatory is established by Pope Gregory I.
600 a.d. – The use of Latin language in prayer and worship made official.
600 a.d. – Prayers directed to Mary, dead saints and to angels.
(540-604) – Pope Gregory the Great says that sex for married couple was all right provided they did not ‘befoul their intercourse with pleasure’ (Pastoral Rule 3.27).
607 a.d. – Title of \”Pope\” (Bishop of the universe) given to Boniface III by the Emperor Phocas.
680 a.d. – Pope Honorius declared a heretic by Third Council of Constantinople.
709 a.d. – Kissing the pope\’s foot begins with Pope Constantine.
750 a.d. – Temporal power of the popes is conferred by Pepin, King of the Franks.
786 a.d. – Worship of the cross, images and relics is now officially authorized.
850 a.d. – Holy Water (mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by a priest) comes into use. .
890 a.d. – The worship of Joseph as a saint.
927 a.d. – College of Cardinals established (for election of popes).
965 a.d. – Baptism of bells instituted by Pope John XIII.
995 a.d. – The canonization of dead saints is first done by Pope John XV.
998 a.d. – Fasting on Fridays and during Lent begins.
1050 – The mass has gradually developed into a sacrifice and attendance is now obligatory.
1079 The celibacy of the priesthood is required by Pope Gregory II.
1090 – The rosary, a mechanical praying with beads, invented by Peter the Hermit.
11th century –
\”Sacred Heart of Jesus\”
1184 – The Inquisition, in operation for centuries, is now made official by Council of Verona.
1190 – The sale of indulgences begins..
1215 – Doctrine of transubstantiation is proclaimed by Pope Innocent III as the power to bring down God out of heaven into a cup and wafer.
1215 – Auricular confession of sins to a priest is instituted by Pope Innocent III and required annually in the Lateran council. .
1220 – The adoration of the wafer (host) is decreed by Pope Honorius III.
1229 – Laymen are officially forbidden to have or read the Bible – by the Council of Valencia.
1251 – Protection by a piece of cloth, the scapular is invented by Simon Stock, a British monk.
1414 – Laymen are forbidden to drink the cup at communion, by order of the Council of Constance.
1439 – Purgatory is proclaimed as a dogma by Council of Florence.
1439 – Doctrine of seven sacraments is affirmed on pain of mortal sin.
[ These seven key \"sacraments\" make the Catholic laity dependent on the clergy at every important moment of their life.]
1504 – The sale of indulgences (by Tetzel) begins.
1506 – Rebuilding of St. Peter with money from indulgence business begins.
1507 – Cult of holy house of Loretto, transported from Holy Land by angels recognized by Pope Julius II.
1508 – The first half of the \”Ave Maria\” prayer is made official.
1593 – The other half of the \”Ave Maria\” is required of the faithful by Pope Sixtus V .
1534 – The Jesuit Order is founded by Ignatius Loyola;
Luther publishes his bible & Calvin publishes his Institutes.
1542 – Pope Paul III creates the Inquisition, the first Roman Congregation of the bureacracy now known as the Vatican Curia.
1545 – The Council of Trent declares \”Tradition\” (the teaching of the \”fathers\”, popes and councils) equal in authority with the bible.
1546 – The Council of Trent adds the apocryphal books to the bible.
1559 – Pope Paul IV initiates the \”Index of Forbidden Books\”.
1565 – Following the Council of Trent \”the creed of Pope Pius IV\” is imposed as the official creed of the church.
1831-46 : Pope Gregory XVI condemns \”freedom of conscience\” as \”a mad opinion\”.
1854 – The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary is proclaimed by Pope Pius IX.
1864 – The First Vatican Council ratifies, as the truth of God, Pope Pius X\’s \”Syllabus of Errors\” (which condemned and repudiated : freedom of religion, speech, press, and all scientific discoveries that have not been approved by the church) .
1864 – The temporal authority of the pope over all rulers is officially reaffirmed.
1869-70 – The First Vatican Council proclaims the absolute infallibility of the pope in all matters of a faith and morals .
1907 – Pope Pius X publishes the encyclical letters Lamentabili and Pascendi against \”Modernism\”.
1930 – \”Public schools\” (i.e. non-sectarian) are condemned by Pope Pius XI (as opposed to church-run schools subsidized by the state, on the basis of taxes imposed on the public).
Throughout World War II, while Hitler\’s government subsidized Catholic and Lutheran churches and schools, those churches avoided any clear condemnation of the Nazi attempt to wipe out the entire Jewish population of Europe.
1939-1958 – Controversial Pope Pius XII
1933 – Pius XII signs \”Concordat\” with Hitler.
in 1939 – when Eugenio Pacelli became Pope, rather than publish the Encyclical Letter,Humani Generis Unitas {The Unity of the Human Race} in which Pope Pius XI explicitly condemned the Holocaust, he buried it in the Vatican archives.
Neither during Adolf Hitler\’s rise to power or any time since, is his Nazi bible, \”Mein Kampf\”, ever added to the \”Index of Forbidden Books\”.
Neither Hitler nor any of the many, many other Roman Catholic Nazi leaders were ever excommunicated.
1950 – The Assumption of the Virgin Mary (ascension of her body into heaven shortly after her death) is proclaimed by Pope Pius XII.
1962-1965 – The Second Vatican Council
1963-1978 : Birth Control issue removed from the competence of the General Council of the Church by Pope Paul VI )
1965 – Mary is proclaimed to be \”the Mother of God\”, by Pope Paul VI.
1966 – The \”Index of Forbidden Books\” discontinued by Pope Paul VI.
1978-2003 – Pope John Paul II canonizes more \”saints\” than all of his predecessors combined!
More Roman Catholic innovations,
( that have yet to be dated ):
Worship not justified by the Bible:
\”Christ the King\” The Infant of Prague
The \”Queenship\” of Mary
Mary viewed as \”the Mother of God\”
Mary \”Mediatrix of all grace\”
The \”Immaculate Conception\” of Mary
The bodily \”Assumption\” of Mary (into Heaven)
Shrines of all kinds
\”Patron Saints\” with power in specialized areas
Beliefs not justified by the Bible:
Crucial role of the Pope, and through him of all clergy
requiring celibacy for priests
reserving the priesthood (and most positions of honor or power) for men only
the duties of wives to their husbands
pressuring non-Catholics to \”convert\” in order to marry Catholics
pressuring the non-Catholic parent to raise his or her children as marry Catholics
strict ban on marriage after divorce (except for those influential enough to get special treatment, such as \”annulment\”)
burial of Catholics in Catholics-only cemeteries
the cataloguing of Mortal vs. Venial Sins
Identifying the following as \”Mortal Sins\”:
masturbation
birth control
abortion
embrionic cell research
suicide, even for the hopelessly ill
This site has a wealth of information about the absolute evil history of the Roman Catholic Church. The gentleman who runs this site is a former priest ( and no, he wasn\’t defrocked…he left of his own volition ).
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/Catholic/Hitlersfaith.html
June 17, 2009 at 5:36 am
For some reason the link came up wrong. For those interested ( and believe me, this is a major in depth site with an amazing amount of historical information and endless links) just google :
catholicarrogance.org/
This will take you to the main menu
June 17, 2009 at 6:23 am
Thanks Eric for that Algol thing. Please do post links.
I\’m trying to catch up and I get:
Crop circles are man-made?
Chems don\’t exist?
A whole shmorgasborg of religious drivel?
The Bible doesn\’t mention angels, uh, I mean aliens?
German company that goes Hmmmmmmmmm?
Long-winded reports from N(ever) A S(traight) A(answer) jet propulsion?
Man is alone in the universe?
We can\’t travel at the speed of light, so no one can?
The entire history of the Catholic Church?
Clark? Oh! Clarko? If you\’re out there speak up. In need soothing words.
Dude: And then there were three…and you got them riled.
\”Thrice to thine, and thrice to mine, and thrice again to make up nine…\” (witches in Macbeth)
Yesterday, not one chem here. This morning, whack!
Coffee time.
911=USrael
June 17, 2009 at 7:39 am
Sorry about all the ///// everywhere. My made in China keyboard’s fucked.
And another one bites the dust…
Au revoir.
June 17, 2009 at 8:43 am
Okay, I’ve switched to another made in China keyboard. This one won’t print the letter “…” the letter comes before “y.” I always buy two, one spare, for just such an eventuality. And see? NDG!
Both keyboards were “high-end” and no more than 7-8 months old, then again, made in China means it self-destructs as if on cue.
Seems their repeated attempts to kill us with the melamine in food etc. won’t suffice, the crap they make, and there’s little else out there nowadays, must meet strict standards for consistent unreliabity and dinkyness.
Dude: Barely a reply from you re. my numerous other questions, but never mind.
Perhaps you’ll e_plain the fact Nibiru, as per sites you suggested, was supposed to appear to backyard astronomers in 2003? We’re 7 years later and still nothing?
As I’ve said a dozen times, I’m not disputing the chems ARE trying to hide something (aside from plenty of other nefarious purposes), but Nibiru’s date of appearance does vary quiet a lot. 2003? 2006? 2009?
It’s been reported it will appear at 33 degrees from the sun or some such thing — significantly connected to the Masons who, it is surmised, know of its approach.
Does one need a “sun telescope” to see it now?
Hope you’ll respond. Thanks.
911etc.
June 17, 2009 at 9:43 am
Just two links that confirm the conjunct of the malevolent comets thrice.
http://lunarplanner.com/Snippets/snippet.07.11.01-CometHolmes.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/algol.html
Since I read these, I have discovered two discussion boards with thousands of posts all pondering why these comets were summoned at this time and in perfect harmony in space.
Really good astronomy in these astrological pages….
June 17, 2009 at 11:43 am
Eric, thanks, but an overall black background is inhospitable and unnecessary whilst the white-on-black script quickly becomes unbearable for me to read.
The other, well, it’s a “ladies’ site.” It’s gotta be.
Only “ladies” promulgate this sort of fantastical fairy-tale BS nonsense about that “royal-blooded” reptilian (a la Icke) Diana.
Einstein said, “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.”
The global hysteria over that bitch’s death and the mooing, tearing mindlessly adoring masses at Obamination’s coronation confirm Einstein’s assessment.
On the heels of the Diana nonsense comes the most infantile, unforgiveable e_planation for the French Revolution!
It’s the conjunct part I’m interested in. Nonetheless, I’m grateful to you, Eric.
Lots of astronomy sites…I’m outta here.
Dude, I await your reply.
Later maybe,
911=USrael
June 17, 2009 at 12:40 pm
stef:Im not aware of any question you asked other than about the crop circles and I thought i answered that.
nms: you posted a lot of stuff about religious history but you would be very wise to read the story in the bible….if youre in the usa anyway. over half of it is the story of the destruction of the USA on 10-10-09 and it is FULL of incredible details.
i tried responding to the incredibly hypocritical ursa and celline but this thing wouldnt let me. They have closed their minds to the truth about ETs and Nibiru just like the people they know have closed their minds to chemtrails. Maybe the 10 or so links I posted was too much.
Maybe just one at a time: http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html
That link shows a bit of UFO stuff throughout history when there was no US AF to blame for the UFOs.
Saying “if you believe the Bible then you cant believe in aliens” is total hypocrisy since your Bible (that you claim to believe) is full of alien stuff. What do you think the “New Jerusalem” is that will “descend from the heavens”??? Seriously girls, get a brain. what is the cheribum with the flaming sword in Genesis? We know from Ezekiel that Cheribums are flying objects since that is what Ezekiel called military jets.
maybe 2 links. Watch the Disclosure project where a lot of insiders come forward to tell what they know:
June 17, 2009 at 12:41 pm
haha ok. i did not try to embed that vid. guess thats why it wouldnt let me post a bunch of links last night.
June 17, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Oh yea, that comet Holmes….i thought that was the sign in the heavens when it happened. that is when i was trying to stay outta the usa but im glad i came back now cause being in Canada will guarantee that i wouldve been captured as they are going to turn against us and cut us off in the day of destruction. Canada is the tribe of Dan and the land of Beersheeba in the Bible. that is why Dan is not mentioned in the 144,000 that will be saved…cause they have their own country and Russia wont completely destroy them.
June 17, 2009 at 1:35 pm
NMS, what you posted about the catholic church is correct, other than that abortion IS murder and a sin. The bible does mention that, and it is not a catholic ‘invention’, and the same goes for infanticide. And since embryonic stem cell research goes hand in hand with abortion, yes, that is murder and a sin, too.
Besides, embryonic stem cell research hasn’t yielded anything useful yet, while adult stem cell research has shown great promise. Also, clamping the cord immediately and using the cord blood for medical purposes is extremely bad for the baby. The baby still needs to be connected to the mother until the cord stops pulsating, as that blood is desperately needed by the baby.
http://www.givingbirthnaturally.com/restricted-umbilical-cord-problems.html
Stef, what I wrote about space travel did NOT come from a government site, as I don’t trust government sites for any useful information.
The bible does NOT talk about aliens, but angels. You guys have serious problems if now you claim that angels are the same thing as aliens.
Go ahead and mock me, I don’t care. You guys are all deluded in many ways, and interpret the Bible in whichever way you feel you want to. You make it fit your agenda and misinterpret it accordingly.
The one thing I got out of you, Dude, that is extremely useful is your interpretation of the visions Ezekiel and John had. I do believe that fighter airplanes and helicopters are a good fit with the descriptions.
But I think to equate America with Zion in the Bible is nonsense, and to say that the new Jerusalem is a space ship is as well.
Stef, even if space travel was possible, the distances are too great. And there is no such thing as warp speed, either. Besides the fact, that it would NOT be possible to avoid all the space particles out there, as space is NOT empty.
All those alien encounters people remember are either induced by hallucinations or those aliens are demons, plain and simple. Satan is the great deceiver, he can let people see aliens, I am sure.
You guys believe what you want to believe. Suit yourself.
My sky today is just one thick, white mass. We are supposed to get thunderstorms just about now.
June 17, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Ursa:
my patience just ran out. youre about as dumb as a box of rocks and you sound identical to the ones youre trying to convince about chemtrails (ya know…a bunch of programmed personal opinions that fly in the face of all the evidence)
When you see America totally destroyed on 10-10-09 exactly like I told you the Bible says then you will know the truth.
Till then I will keep my conversations limited to those who can still think.
June 17, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Ursa..I’ve seen things in the skies that are unexplainable but that doesn’t mean I believe they were UFO’s. I think space travel has already been accomplished and they won’t tell us about it. As far as aliens in the bible, I think that is a bit of a toss up. Basilides called them Archons which are a dimensional being similar to Lucifer and possibly created but not destroyed before we were. Hey, Darwin married his mother’s sister after his wife died. Anything is possible.
June 17, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Dude, I don’t think you are too bright, either.
In case anybody thinks I copied and pasted what I said about space travel from a NASA site or something like that, I didn’t. I got it from a book, which I read and partially copied (as in typed in every word here) and partially paraphrased because it was too long.
Stef, the only space travel that has occurred is to the moon (manned) and to the planets in this solar system (unmanned). And even the travel to the moon might be questionable.
Well guys, it has been nice meeting you, but I think I am out of here. Dude’s nonsense, and now his attacks on top of other attacks I’ve had here is more than I need to put up with.
June 17, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Foundingfather, thanks for making your site available. I will explore the other parts of it, but I believe I am done with this chemtrail blog part of it. Disagreement with my views is one thing, but constant personal insults are quite another. There is never any need for that amongst adults and is unacceptable.
June 17, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Today they are spraying very heavily. Total coverage, cris-crossing and everything. They are just above cloud level. They are using the horizon to horizon stuff, rather than the newer quicker dissipating stuff. The new stuff must not work all that well. It was clearing up some here, the clouds are collecting fast in tandem with the chemtrails. As I look out my window now, I don’t see any in the gaps in the clouds. As if they did enough and now they left?
Last night in a temporary clearing in the clouds, approximately two hands north, off the handle of a dipper ( I think it was the big dipper) I saw either a planet or satellite that … I don’t know, my eyes were probably playing tricks on me, I thought I saw the flicker of a short red pulsing beam about twice the length of the satellite. Then it clouded up. I was under a street light so I couldn’t see it too well, but I did see quite a number of jets with the newer short stuff.
I was directed to this set of photos from Hubble. It does show how insignificant we are, at least size wise. Wow. But then again, as the person said who directed me to this photo, we are important because this planet was made for us. As small as we are, we were important enough to have a planet made just for us.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2706/spaceb.jpg
It’s pretty hard to argue on the internet, as the saying goes, arguing on the internet makes every one seem a bit retarded, correct or not.
The girls not considering all possibilities is understandable, but I try to keep an open mind here. The Planet X is real, per NASA, not just Dude. The trajectory is the only thing in question. Who knows about the speed of things, there could be some factors we are unaware of to cause a planet to go faster than anyone would expect.
Personally, two factors that always interested me were: we are described in the Bible as being the first fruits. What does that mean exactly? Are there second fruits who grew faster and got more advanced? The second is, the Three Earth Ages. Without the Three Earth Ages the Bible makes no sense. What technologies might be involved in prior earth ages is up in the air. As the Bible says, with God, all things are possible, so long as it doesn’t contradict what he said prior.
Perhaps we should all stick to chemtrail observations, a kind of stay on topic kind of deal?
Well, except for what Eric sees with his telescope. It’s up to everyone else if they can hold back any taunts and insults, on both sides, I think I can. Part of that whole, “be an adult” thing. With the chemtrails so active nationally, I kind of think everyone here is being a bit affected. There must be lithium in todays chemtrails I feel pretty good today.
June 17, 2009 at 4:32 pm
ursa: dont run off. that was a bit harsh. sorry. i just get so sick of ppl who have closed their minds to things for no reason. your statements are in direct contradiction to TONS of evidence and the text in your Bible. Same thing Truth did. he wanna keep telling me God dont like weed when God very plainly says it is good. besides, i thought you ladies liked a little drama.
June 17, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I do hope, at the very least, Ursa comes back and throws out a link to her photos when she puts them online. I was impressed with her efforts to fight the bugs, very few women will do that for anything.
I think, maybe, Dude should get a blog so he can address questions about 10-10-09 there.
@Dude, that’s funny what you said, “i thought you ladies liked a little drama.”
Some do, some don’t.
June 17, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I do hope, at the very least, Ursa comes back and throws out a link to her photos when she puts them online. I was impressed with her efforts to fight the bugs to get her photos. Very few women (and many men) will go though that for anything.
I think, maybe, Dude should get a blog so he can address questions about 10-10-09 there.
@Dude, that’s funny what you said, “i thought you ladies liked a little drama.”
Some do, some don’t.
@Celline, if you get more than a HMMM out of your German company I will be surprised. I’ll bet it winds up being like the description I gave of my friend when I showed him.
June 17, 2009 at 4:44 pm
huh, I guess it did post afterall, sorry about the double post.
June 17, 2009 at 4:47 pm
* have to avoid all words with the “_” so please bear with me.
It’s I have the telescope, Clark. I’ve joined an astronomy club here. I’ll let you know how that goes.
Dude: You think chems aren’t real? You’re kidding right?
The questions related to the phrase in the “Our Father”: And lead us not into temptation. Other questions…well, my comments are just a short ways up, if you want to answer, review them. Thanks either way.
Ursa, are you an elementary school teacher? That bit about “acting like grownups” etc. sounds school marmy to me.
Or perhaps an out-of-work actress? What with the dramatic departure…
“Stef, the only space travel that has occurred is to the moon (manned) and to the planets in this solar system (unmanned).”
I think though we may think we know the universe, we, meaning the “llittle” people, know naught. Whatever “they” know “they” aren’t sharing. Still, if you say so, she-bear, then it is so.
I agree, however, that there remain nagging questions over the moon landings.
There are Military black op UFO’s and there’s the other kind. It’s all food for thought.
Go in peace, Ursa.
And now there are two…
911etc.
June 17, 2009 at 4:48 pm
haha, im 40 and ive yet to meet one who doesnt like some kind of drama.
seriously though, after two years of trying to educate idiots, i have almost zero patience left. i have engineers who spout off pancake theory about 911. i have chemtrail believers spouting off theres no Nibiru. I have Nibiru believers who say there is no God. i have Bible believers saying there will be no war.
And they all get pissed because no one believes them about the stuff they do know but yet, they turn around and spout off the same nonsense to others about stuff they dont know shit about.
really, it gets old. almost makes me look forward to the war. i wont be able to say “i told ya so” but theyll know.
June 17, 2009 at 4:49 pm
that was for Anonymous
June 17, 2009 at 4:52 pm
stef: “Our Father lead us not into temptation.” is just a prayer request for God to lead them away from temptation. the Bible stories are simple and the meanings are usually quite literal. Only the names of objects and places need figuring out and that is very easy with some things, like jets, helicopters and the USA.
June 17, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Dude, here’s a question from before:
Perhaps you’ll e_plain the fact Nibiru, as per sites you suggested, was supposed to appear to backyard astronomers in 2003? We’re 7 years later and still nothing?
As I’ve said a dozen times, I’m not disputing the chems ARE trying to hide something (aside from plenty of other nefarious purposes), but Nibiru’s date of appearance does vary quiet a lot. 2003? 2006? 2009?
It’s been reported it will appear at 33 degrees from the sun or some such thing — significantly connected to the Masons who, it is surmised, know of its approach.
Does one need a “sun telescope” to see it now?
Muchas Gracias, Amigo!
June 17, 2009 at 5:19 pm
stef: i havent built a model so i havent fully visualized it. it is approaching from the south so it slowly becomes visible to the north with time. we can see it now if it werent for the chemtrails.
i am almost certain that it is a brown dwarf or a planet with an atmosphere that would look like a brown dwarf. the pic on google earth near Orion perfectly fits the description given in the kolbrin egyptian scrolls. says it has many eyes swirling and thats exactly what the google image shows. ms wwt shows a brighter flaming object with dots all over it. three soho images ive seen so far have it moving up and to the right of the sun. im not exactly sure where it is but i guarantee you it is behind the chemtrails.
the other years were arranged hoaxes like y2k for just this reason. they can say “it didnt happen then so its not gonna happen now”.
Another way you can know it is now is because Russia is about to destroy us and the bible says that the war will be 2 years before the earthquakes. this 2 years is stated with three time spans in various books of the Bible but its very clear that the war will be on 10-10-09 and Nibiru will cause the biggest quakes since man has been on the earth, erupt Yellowstone and end the war.
June 17, 2009 at 5:28 pm
basically God says we’re evil and Hes gonna destroy us with the nations gathered on 10-10-09, for His people to come out of her or die, and when the job is done Hes sending Nibiru to wipe out the invaders and say gtfo of His country. he says whoevers left will be very humble, Godlike and we will break up our images and follow His laws. After we rebuild His temple, approx 70 yrs, hes coming back and heal the land with His New Jerusalem that will DESCEND FROM THE HEAVENS and send His angels (non humans from the heavens = aliens) to gather the remnants of the prisoners of His people (us) and bring us home to jerUSAlem.
June 17, 2009 at 5:48 pm
When I think back about 50 years I remember joy. It was exciting to be alive. I wonder if kids feel that way anymore. I remember being bored and looking for something to do. That would usually mean looking for someone to play with.
This site reminds me of just such a scenario. Coming out to play and let’s hope no one has to go home early with a bloody nose.
You guessed it Clark. I have a telescope.
June 17, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Dude, I’m planning to ask questions about NIbiru at the astronomy club I’ve just joined. Bet you there are lots of folks out there looking for it, on the QT, eh?
I’ve always felt vindication to be far sweeter than revenge.
Too bad it’ll come at such a terrible price.
See ya!
911etc.
June 17, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Can anyone tell me what the flying flaming goose surrounded by musical notes on Google’s front page means?
I’d appreciate it.
June 17, 2009 at 6:08 pm
means google is a bunch of flaming fags flying off to sing like a bird and give all your data to the feds?
June 17, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Ha ha! Yeah, Dude, funny. Who cares anyway, right?
Say Eric, what kind of telescope do you use?
I’ve been reading the instruction pamphlet and I’ve been hours on the Internet and let me tell you, it’s no walk in the park! Dials and gadgets and meridian flips etc.
How long have you been astronoming? Ha. Do you think my joining a club will be useful? If it’s the least bit fun, I’ll take it. Not much to laugh about these days, save for Dude’s witty remarks.
Let me know, I can really use some help with this big fella.
Thanks.
June 17, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Eric, please re-post that Hitler Secret Book.
I put it in favs and I went to copy it to documents — Poof!
A warning comes up says “error something something.’
Has it been removed? Do you have another?
Can’t find another copy of it anywhere.
I’d really appreciate it.
911youknow
June 17, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Today I expected it to white out, but it didn’t. Mostly cloudy, with rippled white clouds – the ones with white lines evenly spaced, just like a series of ripples in the water, created an almost 3-D effect.
Dude Says: im 40 and ive yet to meet one who doesn’t like some kind of drama.
HAHA that was funny, I’m 41, and I’ve met plenty of them that don’t, some that even chop wood and fix cars.
Earlier, the planet or satellite I saw off the dippers handle, I made a mistake, it was not North, but rather South of the dippers handle (a good telescope target?) I saw it again tonight. Same deal. I still think it is just my eyes, but who knows.
“after two years of trying to educate idiots” I would think a person would have boatloads of patience. But, patience does wear down.
ericswan Says: Coming out to play and let’s hope no one has to go home early with a bloody nose.
THAT was funny, and so very true.
June 18, 2009 at 1:09 am
@clark,
The strangest thing happened today. My german company is here.. and our skies are crystal clear.. w. not a spot in it.
And I wanted to show them, what is being done to us… need I say more than” I think the Devil himself cleared the skies today.. so I would feel like an idiot ?”
Well, they are going to Vegas tomorrow, and will be back for a few days… I will keep trusting the Lord, to make happen whatever is Best in His eyes.
I do believe with all of my heart.. that sinister powers are at work here.
..
so long and goodbye,
Ggwaou.
June 18, 2009 at 9:44 am
Celline..chemtrails are covert and they want to keep it that way.
January 24th, 2009
The ultimate challenge is to shape the common concern of most countries and all major ones regarding the economic crisis, together with a common fear of jihadist terrorism, into a strategy reinforced by the realisation that the new issues like proliferation, energy and climate change permit no national or regional solution.
—Henry Kissinger: The World Must Forge a New Order or Retreat to Chaos
I bought my telescope at a yardsale. Hehe. I think it works but haven’t given it a test drive. As for astronomy groups, prolly the only way to go.
As I indicated above, they like to keep things completely under wraps. The powers that be have deleted Hitler’s other book which is the first time I have experienced a deleting a http://www.scribd.com unless the author had requested it. I think I have a copy. My email address is attached to my blog.
June 18, 2009 at 10:14 am
For the cynics who think space travel is gravity and space/time dependent (as we know it), please be assured that you and me don’t know the half of it. And they don’t want you to know anything. You might raise expectations and kids might live to see other planets.
http://lanl.arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0701/0701091.pdf
June 18, 2009 at 12:02 pm
eric: check piratebay for the book youre looking for. those sites like scribd will remove copyrighted material which is why i havent posted jonathan grays books to docstoc. that pdf you posted there is interesting but will take me a little time to figure it out. i havent hit the math that hard for quite a few years.
June 18, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Where is your e-mail, Eric?
Can’t find it. I should have printed that book when I had the chance…damn! Should the day ever dawn when “the powers that be” get dragged out butt-nak’d unto the public square, my pitchfork and I will be front row center!
It’s raining nails following yesterday’s full spray day, I must buy another keyboard, agh! I’m in a foul mood.
Thanks.
June 18, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Hey Stef..we don’t have that kind of time. Here’s the scoop..
http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html
be forewarned..no mention of Planet X and no mention of the bible. Just straight goods science.
June 18, 2009 at 12:26 pm
projectcamelot knows about Nibiru. Look at their tunnel-diggin machine page. project camelot knows about Russia and the NWO destroying America too, look up their interview with george green on youtube.
June 18, 2009 at 12:49 pm
nice link eric. i like the lanl page referenced there: http://lanl.arxiv.org
June 18, 2009 at 1:08 pm
wow, henry deacon just flat out lied about the purpose of chemtrails in that project camelot interview.
June 18, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Fine, Eric. No time, gotcha.
” I don’t intend to reveal any information that in my judgment is both classified and specific to national security.”
Meaning: I intend to feed you bullcrap and folderol.
“National security” my ass! The ENEMY IS WITHIN! Meaning Israhell, America’s genocidal, every whiny buddy, but its real master. Hence, National Fuckin’ Security is just one more in an endless stream of meaningless catch phrases! It’s a sinister cosmic joke, I tell you!
What would be GOOD and SALUTARY for National S is for this Henry Deacon fellow, and every other AL-CIADA/FBI/MOSSAD etc. “informant,” and others of his mange-infested hyena pack, to go out and yell from the rooftops precisely what IS “classified and specific to N.S!”
“[...] please be assured that you and me don’t know the half of it. And they don’t want you to know anything.” Wasn’t it I said that earlier? So you changed the words…it’s the same message.
“Straight goods science?” Eric, did you not e_press powerful doubts about the validity of what “they” choose to tell us! Whatever science they possess is NOT for public consumption, besides which it is surely well beyond our ken.
I’m with you Dude, let the war begin…
911 USrael
June 18, 2009 at 1:28 pm
the elite are planning this war. i dont wanna be in a war. im getting that movie he said was true right now.
June 18, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I know most of you don’t have time to play games but this is important. I was looking up a site about internet censorship and the story is censored. I think MSN is wired. What do you think?
http://www.watoday.com.au/technology/banned-hyperlinks-could-cost-you-11000-a-day-20090615-c9rv.html
Be prepared. Seconds after arriving at this website, it disappears but some content gets through.
June 18, 2009 at 3:46 pm
My war remark, Dude, was meant in jest. Of course, you don’t “wanna be in a war.” Of course, you didn’t plan it, guy, I know that.
You don’t have the kind of stamina, energy, determination, focus, malevolence it requires to plan a war… or any other remotely strenous activity, man, I know that…toke, toke, cough, cough… ahhhhh…where were wer?
Ah! yes…: You need popcorn to go with that movie, Dude!
And now, ladies&gentlemen, Dude, the man who spoke at great length, sparing no words, denouncing the perils, yea verily, the damnation! comes from watching the accursed “moving+ speaking” images, will sit and watch a movie. Ta-da!
“Ii try to avoid images now but i have the same ones most people have but theyre going away.”
Yeah, Dude, they’re all going away, far away, fading fast…
Tsk,
911TruthNOW (USrael)
June 18, 2009 at 4:03 pm
you funny stef. ill watch something to learn but not on a tv with a 60hz refresh rate. i dont appreciate the jab at the good herb either. Much of the technology you use now was developed by stoners. and yes, on 10-10-09 ALL the images will be destroyed.
June 18, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Celline Says: The strangest thing happened today. My german company is here.. and our skies are crystal clear.. w. not a spot in it.
That kind of thing happens, in other areas too, don’t you know. Broken things work when you’re trying to show others what’s broken, and work well when you’re trying to show others how they are broken. I posted on other websites before and told people to go out and look up, it got clear out real quick. It’s like getting skunked.
stef Says: …It’s raining nails following yesterday’s full spray day,
Last nite and today, same thing here, huge drops of rain, with thunder.
stef Says: …Eric, did you not e_press powerful doubts about the …
BuST me up laughing, that keyboard of yours, like you got a missing front toof or something.
We got some relatively clear skys this evening, if it holds, perhaps I will go out for a drive later and see if I can see the Southern sky. One way or the other, I’d like to know.
June 18, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Humidity can have the same effect as clouds when it comes to visibility. I couldn’t see anything, it was super humid, like August.
June 19, 2009 at 12:25 am
Clark: E_ACTLY!
June 19, 2009 at 3:53 pm
This is for Clark (because you asked). The link to my pictures. This is a fraction of what I have, but I chose to make one folder with the most convincing ones, for ease of showing to others.
June 19, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Oops, here is the link: http://cid-f399739f694ae2de.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Chemtrails%20from%20Feb.%2025th%20to%20present
June 19, 2009 at 6:14 pm
My email is public in my profile which is associated with my blog which is associated with my “name”.
I did a doc search and couldn’t find Hitler’s second book.
I wonder if I retitled as the original was in German. Basically, a non-Nazi economic diatribe with Germany’s take on the exact same scenario we face with the NWO. That would be the take over by criminal means of the economy by international bankers.
June 19, 2009 at 11:40 pm
well i just kinda got threatened with a youtube account named FederalNetAgency with a msg that resembled an ip trace. i think its bs cause if the feds really wanted me, they wouldnt msg me, theyd show up with tons-o-guns. Regardless, it speaks volumes as ive only been promoting my doc and the fact that Nibiru is real. if im disappeared or suicided, remember me.
June 20, 2009 at 12:54 am
I’ve gotten a similar message recently Dude.
I read this once somewhere:
If I’m away from home, I didn’t resist.
If I’m at home, they didn’t have their papers.
(Thanks Ursa.)
June 20, 2009 at 2:13 am
haha, he came back with a patriot act code reference (18 USC SEC 2331). my doomsaying doesnt fit…..even though its true. I wont stop. God didnt reveal the truth to me for me to shut up. I never been one to shut up anyway. I punched holes all in that one. awaiting a reply.
June 20, 2009 at 10:34 am
Fantastic pictures, Ursa! I stopped taking video/photos of them a while back, but I do appreciate yours very much. Have you seen the circular chems, the snake-shaped chems?
I’m sure when you do, Ursa, you’ll snap them up. These chem shapes possess an occult significance and purpose …to them. Check into it.
We shall remember the Dude.
$$ later–new keyboard. Too lazy to switch from the toofless one. Sounding like an inbred moron has its fun side.
I’ve joined an astronomy club, registered for a course on North-American Native Art at the university, seriously thinking of getting into astrophotography as well as investing in a sunscope….
So many things, so little time…
And Ursa, again, great work.
911= USrael
June 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Thanks, Stef, Eric and Clark. No, I have never seen the circular chems before, but will definitely take pics if I do.
June 21, 2009 at 8:57 am
Three solid days of grey skies and intermittent rain.
I fear we shall never see the sun again. If that’s what they intended, then they have succeeded.
Two great documentaries:
1- EVIDENCE OF REVISION
2-THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY.
Both are 8 or so hours long, packed with info, and perfect for these endless rainy days.
Adios muchachos,
911=USrael
June 21, 2009 at 9:57 am
I was a teenager when Kennedy was assassinated. I was a teenager when man landed on the moon. Those were the days. The formative years and still the truth is out of this world.
June 21, 2009 at 10:14 am
I think chemtrails are evolving and it’s because of the work many of us have been doing for years. I have pics where jets would lay down their crap side my side. When that hit the web, they stopped allowing their cowboys to carry on that sort of in your face. One thing that bothers me is the round rainbow around the sun. That usually indicates a complete disregard for the health and safety of all concerned. It looks like a fuel spill on a pristine lake to me.
June 21, 2009 at 10:54 am
Did man really land on the moon?
As for the chems, they used to inflict their “cocktails” on us by flying one over the other. Ever seen those?
The days of rainbow coronas are frequent, it’s true. 7 days in row and its game over? Almost there.
Check out this chem video on Rense:
“Chemtrails Outrage Florence, OR Residents.”
Listen to the video guy’s BRAINDEAD BOVINE “GIRLFRIEND” and Eugenics starts to make sense. Ha!
911etc.
June 21, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Hi, I’m new to this site, but wanted to try to push the conversation more towards weather modification and geo-engineering. I live in the mountains in France, and we have had chemtrails for a few years now, followed by the rain. But I’ve read elsewhere that TPTB are spraying silver iodide to try to cloud seed, and more recently sulphur dioxide, to try to bring about global dimming, as the sun is too hot when it does get through. The authorities really are worried about water, or the lack of it, for our cities, our agriculture, etc. Anyone else any comments on the science?
June 21, 2009 at 2:42 pm
hello Susan, nice to have you here.
What you are seeing, is not only cloud seeding, but chemtrails.
Please describe exactly what it is you see. Is it anything like on Ursula’s links ? Please look at them?!
These have nothing to do w. dimming, yet another rather sinister reason.
Watershortage is proclaimed here also, it seems worldwide.. and a total lie.. a NWO lie. Think: we all need water.. so if prices go up.. who profits ?
Please look through U’s pictures, ok?
June 21, 2009 at 3:51 pm
From Wikipedia:
Sulfur dioxide …. is [often] made when sulfur combines with oxygen.
Sulfur dioxide is also a good reductant. In the presence of water, sulfur dioxide is able to decolorize substances.
Sulfur dioxide blocks nerve signals from the pulmonary stretch receptors (PSR’s) and abolishes the Hering-Breuer inflation reflex.
Sulfur dioxide is a versatile inert solvent that has been widely used for dissolving highly oxidizing salts.
Sulfur dioxide is an allergen to which some consumers are sensitive. SO2 is associated with increased respiratory symptoms and disease, difficulty in breathing, and premature death.
Hering-Breuer deflation reflex – Early physiologists believed the reflex played a major role in establishing the rate and depth of breathing in humans.
So, they dump pure sulfur, which combines with the oxygen in the air to produce sulfur dioxide. The sulfur dioxide helps to reduce the visibility of the other compounds in chemtrails while making it hard to breathe, thus having to keep the windows open at night and throughout the day that some have experienced possibly even leading to early death for the old and the weak. Sulfur is yellow, it probably turns yellow-green from algae growth due to sitting in huge tubs in some warehouse somewhere waiting to be used, and/or from other substances mixed in such as a type of bromide to keep the compound from separating and/or from reacting to the sewage water used as a base for delivery. One part of the compound could be silver iodide, a fast ion conductor making it perfect for use as a charge carrier (HAARP) and as a chemical sensor (missile shield?). Not to mention all the fungus, molds, bacterias and viruses floating around the liquid.
There is a lot in Wikipedia about cloud seeding and chemtrails, like this:
In Moscow, the Russian Airforce tried seeding clouds with bags of cement on Jun 17, 2008. One of the bags did not pulverize and went through the roof of a house.
How cloud seeding works – …The use of hygroscopic materials, such as salt, is increasing in popularity…
Recently, here, we had puffs of yellow-green powder coat everything, probably due to the sulfur not pulverizing as finely as required to avoid reaching the ground in a solid state, much like the cement.
The sulfur dioxide is used to dissolve the salt used for cloud seeding, among other uses.
Weather wars, mind control via L.O.V. attack, population control, missile control, fungus control, and visibility control… all rolled into one application, guaranteed to increase the profits and power of those who are in the know and king of the hill.
When the sun does get through here, it seems as hot as it ever was, nothing abnormal. Too much water here. Today is another day of an all white sky. White skys at day -oh ho…
June 21, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Hi Susan,
When you read through what Clark posted, you can see that the ‘cloud seeding’ (is that the explanation they give you in France?) is anything but harmless to humans (or animals, birds, bees etc.). Not to mention the fact that interfering with weather is a bad idea.
Some parts of the world where they try weather control, they are having droughts now, and in other parts they have storms, hurricanes, floods and unusually heavy rainfall.
In case you didn’t see it, here is the link to my pictures again, so you can compare them with what you see.
http://cid-f399739f694ae2de.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Chemtrails%20from%20Feb.%2025th%20to%20present?sa=757693480
The explanation of trying to help with global warming (which there is no evidence for) is just a lie to get us to believe that what they do is not sinister, but helpful to us.
I am one of those people who is having trouble breathing, and it is getting worse. I started out with asthma in February (when chemtrails were starting to get really bad here), and in the meantime it is chronic bronchitis.
June 21, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Weather wars, mind control via L.O.V. attack, population control, missile control, fungus control, and visibility control…
I forgot pollution control, when we do have a blue sky, we have THE clearist sky.
Some unusual weather descriptions throughtout the US in the first couple of posts on this blog: http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=5490
June 22, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Update: no reply from the fed net agency on youtube. Still spreading the word. just got banned on Alex Jones myspace bulletin for talking about Nibiru, chemtrails and the coming extermination of America.
June 22, 2009 at 4:45 pm
welcome and more here on weather wars..
http://www.jerryesmith.com/index.php/2
June 23, 2009 at 12:36 am
This a.m. started out like any other hot and muggy day. Partly cloudy, the light and fluffy kind with chemtrails infrequently being applied above. Then around noon, things got a bit different. The sky cleared up – all the way – and the chemtrails disappeared completely. This lasted until well past nightfall when I stopped looking. I went to an overlook early this evening, and again just an hour ago. In the daytime, with the exception of two fingers width up from the horizon where smog blocked my view – I saw nothing out of the ordinary. The smog seemed new, something I hadn’t noticed in days past. At night, with no moon, the visibility was good, I could see my Southern sky for the first time in I don’t know how long – all of it. I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary then either. I’m no astronomy expert, but I know the Big Dipper from the Small. I did see someone who looked like they might want to rob me, so I didn’t stay long. If there is something out there, it looks just like any other star, or perhaps it is like with many other objects in the sky and it’s not visible at certain times, or on certain days. Perhaps whatever they were hiding won’t be visible until 10-10-09, or they weren’t hiding anything at all and chemtrails are simply a weapon of war, a controller of pollution or weather, or a combination of some such. Simply – HA! For some reason, it’s a relief to know they are not flying. Who knows how long that will last and why it would continue? Somebody does.
June 23, 2009 at 8:12 am
You said it Clark.
What do you people think of this moon bomb they set off, or are about to?
How enraging is it to think we have absolutely no say on what these GD masonic/Talmudic jew/Luciferians do to us, to our bodies, to our planet, and now even to the moon!
Bruce Cockburn’s comes to mind:
“I want to raise every voice — at least I’ve got to try
Every time I think about it water rises to my eyes.
Situation desperate, echoes of the victims cry
If I had a rocket launcher…Some son of a bitch would die!”
911=USrael
June 23, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Good report Clark.. I think you and maybe one other that posts here might be interested in this report.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2297538/Conspiracy-Secret-Nazi-Conspiracy-The-Omega-File?autodown=pdf
June 23, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Totally pristine azure sky.
Not even a whisp of real cloud.
It won’t last, I know.
But I’m savoring the moment…
So long ya’ll.
June 23, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Eric, I have read about these ‘alien’ abductions. One very interesting fact is, that whenever they try to abduct real Christians, and those Christians call on Jesus Christ to save them, the aliens will immediately abort the abduction and flee. Which strongly suggests to me that those ‘aliens’ are demons.
June 23, 2009 at 2:43 pm
WHAT ABOUT THE MOON BOMB?
Geez, it’s like pulling teeth.
Tsk,
911etc.
June 23, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Bomb, bomb, bomb the moon.
Moon bomb, at first I thought you were kidding, but they really are going to bomb the moon… unreal and a waste of money. I don’t understand their stated aims for the bombing, In the article I read, it said they wanted to see if there were traces of water. I thought they already found swimming pools worth of water up there. I wonder if there is a large chunk of ice buried in the ground up there or an aquifer. They seem to want to colonize the moon pretty badly. It seems like a waste of time, energy and money that would be better spent down here, or not spent at all.
Day two, clear sky’s, no jets.
I noticed they are supposedly shutting down a domestic national spying program. I wonder if the jets of chemtrails fits in with that story? Chemtrails as a giant looking glass? I read somewhere that it was possible to use the entirety of the earth as a huge lens so that it was possible to see anywhere on earth at one moment. Was this it?
patience stef
June 23, 2009 at 2:54 pm
It’s all about the money. If only they had to ask us for it first.
Audit The Fed.
June 23, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Most of what I read about aliens is that they believe in Jesus as well. Of course, if you finish reading that book you might begin to suspect that the snake in the garden was an alien.
I’m certain of one thing. There is evil in this world.
June 23, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Eric, yes, they believe in Jesus. Satan believes in Jesus, too. As in knowing fully well who He is, but at the same time hating him, and fearing him.
You may want to research who abducted humans, especially children, before there was such a thing as science fiction books and movies? I’ll give you a hint, check out abductions by elves, fairies, trolls etc. (ever heard of changelings?).
So, before people believed in aliens from other planets, they believed in those mythical creatures, and it was them abducting people.
In either case, it was demons. Since they are not of this dimension, they can make themselves appear as whatever they want to us. And because now people believe in aliens, that’s what works.
June 23, 2009 at 6:38 pm
A rose by any other name???
June 23, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I read most of it (http://www.scribd.com/doc/2297538/Conspiracy-Secret-Nazi-Conspiracy-The-Omega-File?autodown=pdf) and the possibility is strong that these machinations of an alien invasion are on a dimensional level which many will never perceive and many will dismiss.
I can corroborate much of this information from personal experience and intense study and for that reason alone, it’s worth reading.
But, (Ursa), I’m not convinced that these are flesh and blood aliens.
June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Right, I don’t believe they are ‘flesh and blood’ either, but rather spirit beings (fallen angels), who as I said, can appear in any shape they choose. And they also can appear in solid form if that is what they want to do.
After Jesus rose from the dead, he was solid enough when he wanted to be, eating with his disciples, but he could also walk through walls and appear and disappear at will. Heaven is in another dimension, we can sometimes feel it, and sometimes see beings from that dimension. But we won’t be able to go there until we have died. Only our spirits will be able to enter there, until we get our new body eventually, when Jesus comes back.
June 24, 2009 at 4:20 am
hi, we’re busy organic farmers here in France, so not much time to read/catch up. Looked at Ursula’s photos, and have seen exactly the same thing here (France). Also travelled last winter and have seen the same in Italy, Austria and UK. The white lines dissipate to form one huge low cloud, completely blocking the sun, and then it gets chilly. But when the sun is out and we have a cloudless day, like yesterday, it is very hot. The wheat has been harvested already, very early, and the cities over here are very low on water, with major rivers low. 80% of France’s energy comes from nuclear power stations, which are situated along the major rivers, as the reactors need cooling. I think they are trying to ‘make rain’ so that there are not major power shortages and civil unrest before they’ve got everything ready. This is not to suggest that there are not also chemicals in those trails, but to try to look for some other reasoning behind what is happening – for it IS happening, even though most people I know are in complete denial, and I have been thought mad ‘listen to yourself’ from my brother! I believe the NWO is being put into place, and police brutality is ramping up very quickly, but they’re not quite ready yet. Also, looks like we’re going to get mandatory ‘flu’ vaccinations here in the autumn, although I am going to refuse. PS If anyone can tell me how to up-load photos, I can put some European chemtrails up!
June 24, 2009 at 7:42 am
Hi Susan,
Welcome. Sorry to hear they are chemtrailing you in France as well, but I do think it is good to have documentation of these activities. Maybe eventually more people will realize the truth of what is going on!
You can’t post pictures here directly due to the limitations of the blog format. What you need to do is get a free picture hosting account (try http://photobucket.com or http://www.flickr.com but there are others as well).
Once you have your account, you can upload your photos, you can put captions on them, group them by subject, etc.
Then you can post the link to your photo account here so that everyone can see them.
Also, I finally got a chance to listen to the Alex Jones interview of David Icke from his 6/15 radio show. Though they just briefly mentioned chemtrails, David stated (as others here have said) that the program is multi-faceted, has several different goals, and in his opinion, the HAARP weapons program is very much intertwined with the chemtrails. They also discussed issues of consciousness and other interesting perspectives. Naturally, just as David would be making a really interesting point, Alex would feel compelled to interrupt him (a habit I find most annoying, although Alex is not as bad as he used to be, he should still learn to LISTEN more when he has a good guest on!)
At any rate, for those of you interested, you might be able to listen to the interview by searching on YouTube for “David Icke Alex Jones Interview 6/15/09″ or just join Alex Jones’ “PrisonPlanet.Tv” and you can get all the shows archives commercial free in mp3 format.
Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 24, 2009 at 10:51 am
http://s767.photobucket.com/albums/xx319/squeak_album/?albumview=slideshow
I’m not the greatest computer whizz-kid, but wanted to share some photos of what I’ve been seeing in Europe. Lovely clear day here today – not a cloud!
June 24, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Susan, I looked at your pictures, and you’re right, it is just like it is here. Yuck! Good job uploading them. I’ve subscribed to your album, so if you put more pics in, I’ll know right away.
June 24, 2009 at 2:27 pm
I saw your pictures too Susan. The US, Canada, Mexico, Italy Austria (all of Europe?) I wonder if there is any place they are not spraying. Because you indicated one shot was of Northern Italy, does that mean Southern Italy is free of chemtrails or is that just because you were only in Northern Italy? I imagine only some areas get sprayed, but all areas get covered.
Are non-western allied countries doing this too? For some reason I don’t think they are doing this in places like Africa, Asia, Russia, India, Venezuela or Brazil.
I wonder if the reason they are having such a bad drought in places like parts of South America (and other areas?) is because they do not allow the spraying and the spraying that does take place nearby sucks up (or causes to fall immediately) all the moisture that would normally fall as rain elsewhere?
They started spraying again here, minimally, after two whole days of not spraying.
Yesterday was clear blue sky (and very hot, but not exactly abnormal) then clouds rolled in. The clouds at first seemed odd in the same way TV is different when you switch from the old style analog to high definition. The new clouds really contrasted against the bigger darker cloud bank rolling in behind it.
That moon bombing thing…. Didn’t China land on the moon awhile back? I wonder if the two are connected.
If they are spraying something over such a wide area of the earth, imagine the size of the infrastructure needed to do so. Trucks, railcars, warehouses, jet airplane bays, laboratories, personnel, housing, food supply for crews. There’s a whole bunch of people who know what is really the purpose of the spraying.
It’s days like this I feel like I’m one of Pharaohs ignorant unwilling conquered slaves and those who see-nothing-know-nothing-deny-everything-stiff necked-character assassinators are no different than the rat who, in the vain attempt to temporarily forestall some inevitable punishment from being inflicted on everyone due to the freedom seeking efforts of a few, gives away their fellow man trying to escape from a war prison camp or discourages any attempt to do so by belittling and marginalizing any plans to do so. We are all freaking doomed. It’s a good thing life isn’t the do all, be all of everything or this would be a bit depressing. Is this how some Germans felt about what was going on during WWII with regards to the labor camps, et al?
June 24, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I have never seen anything in south central British Columbia that comes close to the Italy pics that you posted and thank you very much Susan.
1776..why is it Dude posts a youtube further up the page but pics cannot be posted?
The sky here is opaque and has been for a week. Hard to say if they are chemtrailing but I suspect that is what glues this cloud cover together.
It’s very cool out and threatening rain that has come and gone in fits and starts. Our premier Campbell is the first Canadian provincial gov’t to go with THE CARBON TAX which in my household, is an additional 15 to 16 bucks a month on my natural gas bill. We get a 5 cent per litre charge on gas next week which is on top of 1.10 per litre right now. Talk about being gouged. It’s hard not to see what slick oil is doing to the world.
It is interesting Susan, how many organic gardeners/farmers seem to have a higher awareness of what is going on above them.
June 24, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Thanks Ursa and Clark for your messages – you can add France and UK to those countries too, I’ll take some pictures of above my house next time that they do it here. When I see them in UK my family just say it’s normal contrails, because it’s such a small country and many many flights, but I can tell the difference!
You are right about the infrastructure: it’s a huge undertaking and someone must smell a rat? We have a small airport near here which I keep meaning to go into when I’m in town, to talk to some of the light-aircraft pilots.
There is a small association in Toulouse, my nearest city, where they justify cloud-seeding by saying it’s to prevent hail-stones ruining the crops. It’s true that we used to get hail storms but lately just lots of heavy rain, after the spraying. I signed up to their newsletter, they’re called ANELFA’ for those that read French, and they notify days when spraying occurs.
I have a friend in Africa – I’ll ask him whether it happens there. I’m 100% positive that the freak weather of droughts/floods etc are because we are messing with something we don’t understand.
June 24, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Hi Susan, thanx so much for the pictures. They are identical to what it looks like here, California.
Our watershortage is so bad.. we can flush our toilets once a day.. water the yard once a week, laundry ditto ! This is blackmail and money maker.. for ” them” !
In our case here… when a storm moves in, they lay the chemtrails in front of the storm, and then not ONE drop falls ! Nothing ! My German company sais :” Hmm.. those are just clouds ” ! In total denial.
My daughter has a strange bunch of dark lines on her arms, that won’t go away.. she needs to see a dermi.. but I think it is a fungus.. caused by the chems. She too.. does not believe in chems !!
Lately, the way they spray is diffcerent. From the West.. they stream in.. ” cute little puffy cottonball clouds ” move in.. then spread out and become a brownish haze. If you don’t know what you are looking for.. you would think, that those are clouds. In june.. we have Ocean overcasts.. but NEVER clouds of any kind. Yet.. now we have them, and I know they are fake. This is ongoing 24/7.
This BILL : 1388 is another scary thing.. because it is no longer voluntary, yet mandatory.. and no churchgoing permitted… no religious teaching…. etc. not even to talk about God.. is permitted. Look it up.
We are up a creek w. no paddle. Mandatory injections? I heard about those also.. and will refuse, I just hope my children stay strong.
Thank you for all info.. people ! Those Mandetory injections.. Hitler did to the Germans….. those ” Importet Nazis”, came here after WW2 and continued their ” research ” here.. especially in ” Neu Schwabenland ” at the SouthPole… another worthwhile research-point.
What to do ? Americans are peacefully asleep, they never had fear or heartache or war to deal with. It is impossible to wake them up.
I just lost a dear friendship because I tried to tell her, what’s going on.
Known her for 10 years.. she blocks my mail now.
That’s about the average picture.. of the average American’s state of mind. Exactly what ” they” were hoping for, blissful ignorance.
” The big secrets do not need protection, because of the incredulity of the people !” Don’t remember who said that.. but it’s so true !
June 24, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Clark, I have seen chemtrail pictures from Croatia, Bulgaria, really, any country that is connected to NATO. I don’t know about Russia and Africa, but I’ll so a Google search to see what will come up.
I asked one of my brothers (he is in Hamburg, Germany) the other day what he thinks about chemtrails. And he says that they are doing the same thing in Germany, but most people don’t want to know and are in denial. Sounds familiar, of course.
We have chems every morning now, but by the afternoon they are gone. It is extremely hot (34 degrees Celsius, or 93.2 degrees Fahrenheit) and dreadfully humid here (which really is normal for this time of year, and I’ll never get used to it), and by now the sky is blue. Not as deep blue as it should be, though, I bet there is enough of the chem stuff in the atmosphere to make the sky look kind of washed out.
I am updating my pictures on the skydrive every day, or I am trying to, anyway. I added pictures from yesterday, and I am going to put today’s pics up right now. So, if any of you check them in about 30 minutes, they should be there.
The chems are changing. If you go through my pics starting from February, you’ll see that they don’t look the same now as they did even a month or two ago.
June 24, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Celline: Those are clouds! Chems are not clouds, don’t look remotely like clouds…you see puffs they are clouds, you dumb, dumb arsehole.
Hitler did nothing to the Germans, the JEWS in power did!
You are such a bore and a nitwit, words do not suffice.
Agh! Fugget abou’ it.
911= USrael
June 24, 2009 at 6:01 pm
@stef.. the arse is you, I have had enough of you ( so do others )
You are ruining this formerly excellent blog, and no matter what you spout, I will never respond to you anymore.. for me.. you are out.
I know u don’t care.. but this works both ways.
You are a mean and ugly person, and I want nothing to do w. what u say.
Keep your judgements about me to yourself, I do not blog to airheads.
But.. I will not quit the blog, because of one mean arse.
June 24, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Stef, if anybody is stupid, it is you. By now, they are able to make a lot of chems look like clouds, and people who haven’t been watching the chemtrails from the start, wouldn’t know the difference for the most part.
By the way, why is your avatar different? Are you on a different computer, or are you somebody else claiming to be you?
And actually, a lot of the time now, I get puffs, too. They spread rapidly and will cover a wide area pretty quickly. If you want to get confirmation that those puffs are now happening, go to http://www.bluenomore.com/ , click on ‘new’, and you will find that Carl is saying that he gets puffs, too.
I saw new chemtrails and puffs appearing today without seeing any airplanes at all! It is getting more spooky, I wonder how they do it.
What the heck is your problem anyway, Stef? Don’t you know anything about having some respect for others, but especially older people? Celline is 75 years old, and is one of the very few older people who even give a damn about chems and other conspiracies.
You are as ill behaved as a rotten teenager. I know you are much older than that, so how about acting your age, instead of your shoe-size?
June 24, 2009 at 7:06 pm
@Uschi, Thank you ;o)
Yes, about the “Puffs ” infact, that’s all we have right now. The multiply right over your head w.out a plane being anywhere !
Rapidly from 1 tiny one.. to hundreds of bigger ones.. and they look like clouds.. but like I said.. they appear out of nowhere. God knows how they do this, but I have a clue.
Out of sight.. over the ocean ( that’s where they come from ) they release ” particles” that move westward.. and develope into what is visible, way after they were expelled. But then.. they multiply.. but with today’s technique.. no surprise here.
June 24, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Uschi.. stef could be a Shill, beware !
June 24, 2009 at 7:09 pm
.. and another thing that would be typical for Shills, they HATE Christians w. a vengance ! So.. by their fruit will u know them.
June 24, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Celline, you may be right about Stef being a shill.
I just finished putting today’s chemtrail pics up on my skydrive. Have a look, here is the url again:
http://cid-f399739f694ae2de.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Chemtrails%20from%20Feb.%2025th%20to%20present?sa=757693480
June 24, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Of course, Stef could just be a low-life troll. Trolls like to cause strife and insult people in forums and blogs, just to start an argument and disrupt things. The more upset people will get, the happier they are.
June 24, 2009 at 7:52 pm
JFK is assassinated and the killer was right in front of us all this time.
June 24, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Thank you Uschi and Eric.. will check out both immediately.
@U, so true about ” Trolls ”
June 24, 2009 at 8:09 pm
@eric: The writing not ledgible to me.. maybe u can explain.. ?
June 24, 2009 at 8:15 pm
@ U : Fantastic work, those pics, thank you, they will go into my faves to show the German ! Overall.. exactly like here, even a few of those ” Schaefchen-Woelkchen, to those Heavy Wavy ones.. that look like the ocean in motion. Yes.. we had those also. They are the scariest looking to me. OK, thanx again.. I got them.
June 24, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Hello everyone,
I think the reason that YouTube clips show up and pictures don’t is that WordPress converts the YouTube link into the YouTube player. No content is actually hosted on WordPress, the video is still hosted by YouTube.
But if anyone can figure out how to actually post pictures in the comments section instead of links to pictures, they are welcome to do it.
I tried posting a picture in the comments section and could not get it to work. I think it *might* work if the picture is hosted on a site like photobucket and you post the link with the right html code. If someone know how to do that, then feel free to share.
Finally, Stef, who peed in your Cheerios? You *could* have disagreed by saying “I don’t think those are clouds” or even have shared your insight by saying something like “I don’t think those are clouds because.….”and maybe have furthered the discussion, but posting your disagreement and then launching into vicious name-calling is becoming tiresome to me and to others. You can be informative, and you can be funny. You can even be argumentative if it is on topic. Quit being so nasty. It is not helpful or needed.
Thanks,
FoundingFather1776
June 24, 2009 at 11:41 pm
I couldn’t believe it, that after all the chems this morning, and blue skies this afternoon, we had an all-out chemtrail attack this evening!
I glanced outside tonight around 8:00 as I was making a phone call, and was shocked to see chemtrails everywhere! No, for the most part not the old, obvious ones. My April 17th pictures were an all-out attack that was glaringly obvious. Chemtrails being put down by visible planes, in crosses and tic-tac-toe patterns.
That is NOT the way they do it now. They have developed a way to do it in ways that most people wouldn’t notice, unless they keep their eyes on the sky more than on the ground, like me (and yes, I have been in danger of tripping many times, and have to consciously look at the road when driving, as I want to look at the sky instead).
I saw several commercial planes in their usual paths tonight, too. There were NO contrails at all, the conditions were obviously not conducive to contrails today.
But I saw several planes putting down chemtrails, that spread amazingly fast. And then I saw many of those crazy ‘puffs’, that will mostly spread into those strange ‘Nike signs’ before spreading further.
So, I guess I will put a few more pictures into my skydrive folder now, as there were too many I just need to add.
Thanks Founding Father for your support. I hope it has the desired effect.
I would try to experiment with putting pictures in here, but the problem is, that before it would work (maybe), it probably wouldn’t a few times, messing up this blog. So, I am hesitant to try (yes, I have taken a beginner’s web-design course, and know a little about these things).
June 25, 2009 at 12:19 am
Testing, testing! Ignore this post if it doesn’t work, please.
June 25, 2009 at 12:22 am
shucks, I’ll have to do a little studying, but not tonight any more. Bear with me, I may yet figure it out.
June 25, 2009 at 12:53 am
Insane chemtrails added from tonight, check it out at http://cid-f399739f694ae2de.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Chemtrails%20from%20Feb.%2025th%20to%20present
June 25, 2009 at 1:24 am
Uschi.. all of these last pics u took tonight??
8PM, you still have that much daylight?
Everything in there, is the same we have here.. but not all those different kinds at the same time ?
Could u tell.. if all these last pics were taken tonight ? Horrible.. OMG..
June 25, 2009 at 6:57 am
People who run around pointing to tiny airborne water droplets or ice crystals, commonly known as clouds, claiming they are dangerous, poisonous etc. will, in their zeal, undo and discredit the efforts of others to enlighten the comatose on the matter.
Please, read the following statement and then tell me it’s not indicative of rampant paranoia (or something else?):
“Yes, about the “Puffs ” infact, that’s all we have right now. The multiply right over your head w.out a plane being anywhere !louds that appear out of nowhere.”
911= USrael
June 25, 2009 at 7:29 am
Good constructive criticism there with no gratuitous personal attacks. That’s what I like to see!
I am not, by nature a “touchy-feely, can’t we all just get along” type of person. I have very strong opinions on certain subjects that I try to convey as effectively as I can. But I feel the “truth-movement” – whether it is 9/11 truth, or “chemtrail-truth” or the “Federal Reserve is a bunch of criminals” truth etc. has a hard enough job convincing the sheep without us eating our own.
And yet, the very nature of the “truthers” means they are people of independent thought, and consequently can sometimes go astray or over-think things. We can all succumb to ideas that are not 100% accurate. A well stated critique (and the reasons for it) is far more productive than a verbal clubbing in sharing enlightenment.
Cheers,
FoundingFather1776
June 25, 2009 at 7:34 am
Stef, if those ‘puffs’ start multiplying on their own, or spread to cover the sky, then you have to agree that they are NOT normal clouds. Last night I saw quite a few of those puffs appear, and behave in strange ways.
I am NOT saying, that we should show those puffs to uninformed people and claim they are not clouds, as they wouldn’t believe it. It would make me look stupid. But to say it here without being called “dumb, dumb arsehole”, and a “bore and a nitwit”. Even if you THINK of her that way (which is your privilege), you should never say it here. Those are insults, and I can’t imagine you yourself would enjoy being insulted like that.
Celline, I posted a fraction of the pictures I took last night, it was a tough choice, I wanted to put them all! Yes, our daylight lasts until around 9:00 p.m., at which point you can’t really take pictures any more).
June 25, 2009 at 7:38 am
I didn’t finish my sentence above (not quite awake yet). I meant to say, “But to say it here without being called……………….. should be safe”.
Celline, you must remember Hamburg, where in the summer it is light before 5:00 a.m., and doesn’t get dark until 11:00 p.m.? In comparison, our daylight here is short.
But you are closer than me to the equator, where night and day are the same length, and night comes on much quicker than here.
June 25, 2009 at 9:45 am
so everyone is still ignoring all the military personnel and government insiders ragarding aliens, and all the vids on youtube filmed by NASA from the shuttle bay showing UFOs.
This is stupidity. it is identical to the people saying chemtrails dont exist when we all know there is a lot of evidence for them, just like UFOs and aliens.
There are many many instances in the Bible that refer to aliens and spaceships IF you know what youre reading.
You all see where China smashed a sub into one of our pull-behind sonar arrays last week? you see the news showing that the economy will collapse and both england and the usa will default on their debts by the end of summer? you see the youtube vid where kissinger says we will attack iran if the cia-backed coup fails?
Keep on playing with your chemtrails and ignoring everything else. in three months, i promise you all that you will regret not figuring out the big picture of which the chemtrails are just a small symptom.
also, stef is right about hitler too. the fake jews screwed over germany in both wars and they didnt deserve either war. when ww2 was over, we imported all the nazi war criminals and put them in power here and we are about to reap the same thing as germany did in ww2 only 10 times worse.
Anyone read ezekiel and amos yet?
June 25, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Ben Bernanke is on the Canadian bidness channel and as luck would have it, his lame excuses have frozen the screen.
Dude..STEF..be nice. visit that posted website above..
I watched Stanley Kubrick’s “Dr. Strangelove” last night. What a revelation! For something from 1964, it truly is revealing. Some of you might remember that a General Jack Ripper launched a nuclear attack on Russia then barricaded himself in the silo against American military who were trying to abort this attack by this renegade general. The premise that Jack Ripper used for the attack was the introduction (since 1946) by the Communists of flouride into the water, the food supply and even the white flour.
June 25, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Kissinger: “By September we’ll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn’t matter what we do, we’ll still be in charge”.
“Emerging economies emergency meeting in Russia. US asked to be invited, was denied.”
Shouldn’t have to explain the obvious, eh, Dude?
The ladies will be giving chems pet names soon, I bet.
“Go, shut yourself up in your house.” (Ezek 3:24)
Given the way I feel towards people (real ones) lately– sounds like a splendid idea.
“How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb” and Paddy Chayevsky’s “Network” amongst innumerable films/books told us how it was and what was coming. We can’t say we weren’t told.
From one really, really hoarse watchman,
Cheerio(s)!
911etc
June 25, 2009 at 2:24 pm
eric: which website? i watched the jfk thing. already seen that one but it did a better job of cleaning up the image. I saw the chemtrail pages and i dont want to see them anymore. i see that shit enough outside. today was bad too. seems they lighten up on about 3 days a month and spaced about a month apart but I only have 2 months data so far. i guarantee you there is an astronomical reason for it too. when i build a model ill figure it out if my lazy-ass ever does it.
June 25, 2009 at 2:26 pm
stef: i want the link to that one about the meeting
June 25, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Check it out Dude.. You need to get past the first couple of pages to see where it’s going..
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2297538/Conspiracy-Secret-Nazi-Conspiracy-The-Omega-File?autodown=pdf
June 25, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I saw elsewhere on this blog about subliminal messages, and sure enough, when I close my computer down, I get the ‘Windows Vista’ screen and there it is: blue background with white stripes of varying thickness…..I also saw the same on the TV in UK, blue backgrounds with white stripes. Still, my tomatoes are doing very well this year
June 25, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Ocean clouds burned off.. but the Chems remained. The sky is covered with them from Horizon to Horizon. Different looking again..
Long real wide stripes that are broadening by the minute.
The News just now called them: cumulous ! What a lie, that’s not what they are at all. Them’s Chemtrails.. every single one of them.
Our intense sun burns off anything Water….. so those aren’t water.. the sun would have long ago burned them up.
June 25, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Dude: TRUTHDIG — the “The American Empire Is Bankrupt.”
Here it is again: All of creation will breathe a deep sigh of relief the day the USA goes back to being the quiet backwater, cultural swamp it once was.
That day is here.
Ciao!
June 25, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Dude Says: so everyone is still ignoring all the military personnel and government insiders ragarding aliens, and all the vids on youtube filmed by NASA from the shuttle bay showing UFOs.
I hadn’t heard of that, maybe I missed it before. A link or two would have been helpful. Regardless, we’re not ignoring it, it’s just off topic. So much going on in/on/above/below the world. It’s a bit overwhelming. One thing at a time? But, it’s not like they haven’t overwhelmed and desensitized the public with that type of info for decades.
I meant to visit your site again, did you put up a comment section on it? That would be a great place to put some of those links.
I have read much of Ezekiel, it says there are many who will not be killed. Still reading and thinking on that one, so far I’m leaning towards Israel is Israel and not America, but I’m not done reading. Amos…. I hope that is not as depressing.
I don’t know about you guys, but often my chemtrails slowly drift towards the ground and eventually become clouds and then expand until the sky is covered, completely in many cases. (starting out similar to #260 on Ursa Major’s page)
I don’t understand exactly how cloud seeding works, it seems like the process must be similar to how fire spreads. The chemtrails here work kind of the same way. I suspect there is more than one way to create clouds with chemtrails, and more than one cloud type that can be created.
Clouds Are just clouds, it’s just that not all clouds that appear to be, “just clouds” are naturally created clouds, some are man-made. << How's that?
There are many people who do not think it is possible for man to create a cloud or make it rain… I’m not sure they ever will, even if they were shown how it is done up front and personal.
Celline Says The sky is covered with them from Horizon to Horizon. Different looking again.. Long real wide stripes that are broadening by the minute.
That is what I was seeing much of. (wide like #260, but up high like #21) Not so regular these days though. I think they switch where they use substances based on the effects they want to create and the present conditions of the atmosphere and the altitude at which they are applied.
The other day when I was explaining how a particular sub-set of clouds in front of a storm front moving in looked different, as if from analog TV to digital TV. I wasn't kidding. I don't know how else best to describe it, it was eerie. Perhaps it was due to the chemicals in the clouds and how they reflected light or absorbed different colors of the light spectrum, or how what was in the clouds reacted to what was in the atmosphere? I don’t know.
I’ve read about false-flag tactics, how they are used to wear down people so they get overwhelmed from information overload and such, and as a result just, “sit under a tree and do nothing.” I’ve found myself walking away from the computer and focusing on other things, that is kind of the same.
June 25, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I’m having problems posting.
June 25, 2009 at 8:12 pm
@susan, Oui. every TV screen is blue with irregular white stripes, especially on the ” News ” (owned by the Fed Reserve, which is privately owned ) but every one knows that.
June 25, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Discussing Finance, Economics, “Conspiracies” and all manner of Esoterica.
Why is conspiracy in quotes?
Eric’s document page 2 or 3:
“The Americas are the last bastion of freedom on earth.”
This myth is as ubiquitous as it is false.
US citizens have been so dumbed-down they could be milked (jew banksters prove it can be done).
Yet, with near pathological obstinacy, the great unwashed cling to their mantra–we are the best, the richest, the goodest, the freest–even as they nestle into their little tents and cardboard shelters in the shantytowns mushrooming across the usa. (caps no longer apply)
The world, they believe, has only just begun hating them. Nothing could be further from the truth. The world has always envied them. Again, nothing…
It’s almost droll to see the level of confusion and hurt on those stupid, fat “american” faces.
One of the most sadistic jokes ever played on a nation. The bigger they are, the harder they fall…the fall heard ’round the world.
911TruthNOW
June 25, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Eric, why would these ‘grey’s, ‘nordics’ and ‘polka-dotted’ who time-travel to other dimensions and so on, go to all the trouble of doing this, that and the other to accomplish their nefarious goal?
I’ve read this sort of stuff before and I don’t doubt the shadow government and its military are preparing deep underground cities etc. nor that they have, at their disposal, all manner of “alien” technologiy/weaponry.
However, “beings” sufficiently advanced to travel here from other galaxies or dimensions would simply, quickly and efficiently stamp us out, perhaps keeping a select few to serve their purposes.
That the evil in man can be so great, so frightening, so incomprehensible, compels some people to incorporate “aliens” into the mix.
In any case, we’ll all soon “get” the big picture.
As an aside: Two “stars” died this week: Farrah Fawcett and Micheal Jackson. I thought her a damn fine actress and he used to make me get up and dance.
Ciao!
June 25, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Stef,
“Conspiracy” is in quotes because it was an attempt to highlight something which is very real and most sheeple automatically assume doesn’t exist.
It is like doing “air-quotes” with your fingers when talking (but the printed word loses some of the effect). Imagine if I was telling you about the 9/11 attacks and I said “Yeah….“Al-Queda” really hit us hard” *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* (I would hold up my fingers to emphasize “Al Queda” when I said it.
Sheeple have been brainwashed to think that “Conspiracies” don’t exist, that everything just “happens.”
I guess I need my own radio show so everyone can hear the sarcasm dripping from my voice when I say “conspiracies can’t be real, our Government LOVES us!”
Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 26, 2009 at 6:21 am
Your own radio show? That’s the ticket!
It’s such a crazy world words such as finance, economics, esoterica, medi-sin, government, name it, deserve to be in quotes, eh?
With all due respect, this phrase ” most sheeple automatically assume doesn’t exist” needs qualifying. It might read, “Most US citizens, or North American citizens, automatically assume etc.”
I’ve never met a Frenchman, an Italian, a Greek, a Roumanian etc. who had any doubts about 911. They’ll tell you right up front that it was conspiracy on a grand scale. The idiotic and inexorable belief that conspiracies don’t exist is strictly an American disease.
Thanks for the explanation (I knew it had to be something like that) and I await the sound of your voice dripping with sarcasm over the airwaves.
Be well,
911and whatever comes next.
June 26, 2009 at 7:03 am
Stef, I agree with you saying only Americans believe that 9/11 was done by Al Quaeda. My brothers in Germany said right from the start that it was an inside job, and none of them had any doubt.
It took several years for me to KNOW it to be true, all I had to do is to finally look at the evidence (and dismiss the phony government explanations).
My family here in Canada still chooses to believe the government lies, and refuse to look at the real evidence. It is pathetic and drives me nuts. People here have been brainwashed in the schools to believe everything they are told by the media and the government. Ugh
One of my brothers just told me that he knew right away that something was mighty fishy with 9/11. He said when he saw on TV that Bush kept right on reading with the children in that school, that didn’t seem right (no kidding). And that Bush ‘knew’ immediately that it was a terrorist act, and not only that, but who had done it, that was too weird to be true.
Normally, when a crime has been committed, unless you catch the one who committed it in the act, you have to investigate to find the culprit. You don’t have pictures of 19 so-called ‘criminals’ within hours of a huge crime, and know who instigated it ‘from a cave in Afhganistan’. What baloney.
Anybody who seriously believes that after looking at even a fraction of the existing real evidence WANTS to believe the government crap, because the truth is too horrible for them to believe. It shatters their belief that the US government is this ‘benign’ force.
My husband still steadfastly wants to believe that Bush is a ‘bible believing Christian’, and is therefore a good man. I am just starting to get him to consider the possibility that he has been conned. That Bush is no more a real Christian than Obama, both are fakes.
June 26, 2009 at 8:35 am
Yup, Ursa, only “americans” have the disease.
And because of IT, amongst other things, they are (and have always been) the butt of endless ridicule all over the world.
It must do you good to express your opinions freely here, considering your husband’s stubborness and superficiality.
With all due respect, Ursa, I generally skip over the parts regarding the brute you married and the rest of your Canadian nitwit family.
Lucky for them it’s not someone like me they have to contend with ’cause those critters would get a face full of insults and harangues every f***ing day of their useless lives.
It’s a good thing the Bible is a thick book — your husband could use it to fend off the blows raining on his thick, empty, religious fanatical head.
Sorry if I offended you. Did not mean to, honestly. It’s just that people who don’t know, or don’t want to know, the score are permanently excluded from my life. Besides, after a couple of rounds with me they desperately seek escape and rarely return.
Like Carlin said, “Things are far too serious now for me to use gentle tactics.” (I paraphrase)
Coup d’etats (JFK), conspiracies and False Flags of every kind and description…that is how “governments” make things “happen.”
I’m listening to George Noory’s 3 hour interview with Richard Gage about 911 (June 2009). The word is getting out…finally.
Be well,
911etc.
June 26, 2009 at 8:43 am
Stef: The link you referred needs input from folk like Celline but, as you’ve indicated already, Celline already knows everything cause it was written in “the book” and not a jot or tittle can be changed.
I think we homo sapiens sapiens can’t know what the truth is because we spend all our time competing for food warmth and shelter and no time improving the gene pool by means of proper nutrition, education and common cause.
Jesus not only didn’t make water into wine; Jesus wouldn’t make water into wine.
The irony Stef, is that the book was entirely about Germany pre and post WWII. Much of the content was in German.
June 26, 2009 at 8:53 am
One more little thing, Ursa.
Nota bene: Bush was reading the “Goat” story holding the book upside down. This was, apparently, an occult signal to far-flung members of the “Brotherhood of the Snake” etc. that all was as it should be.
Goat-like Demon= Azazel/Baphomet etc.:
The name of a supernatural being mentioned in connection with the ritual of the Day of Atonement (Lev. xvi.). After Satan, for whom he was in some degree a preparation, Azazel enjoys the distinction of being the most mysterious extrahuman character in Jewish sacred literature.
(Wiki)
Everything these Luciferians do has many levels of occult significance.
People laughed at Bush’s incompetence what with his reading a KID book upside down and so on when, in fact, he was signaling/doing exactly what he was required to do.
Watch them carefully, for they are demonically clever.
June 26, 2009 at 9:21 am
Eric, ah! yes, Celline’s “book.”
As for Hitler’s writings, well, it’s my stupid fault for not printing or saving it in my documents.
I’m not finished reading the document you sent, but I shall.
“I think we homo sapiens can’t know what the truth is because [....] proper nutrition, education and common cause.”
Nah! Nutrition has nothing to do with it. Education, yes. We homo sapiens can’t know the truth because we have forgotten, were precisely meant to forget, secret knowledge.
“They” could NOT do to us what “they” are doing if WE STILL KNEW the mysteries/symbols/mathematics (rules and regulations) of their occult religion/knowledge.
There is Literature aplenty proposing the theory that we, the “little” people, have been intentionally detached from what was once a collective wisdom and set of beliefs.
Ponder, if you will, the 52 miles of secret/ancient documents in the Vatican Library…you and I are forbidden to perouse these ancient texts. Why?
Ignorance, will kill us. Our ignorance and our fear/disgust of all things occult/satanic in nature…time to put the bible down, folks, and pick up the Al Jilwal.
Be well, and thanks,
911USrael
June 26, 2009 at 10:27 am
Here’s a link to one of those docs in the Vatican that was stolen and revealed here (once again) and a reasonable facsimile as to the need for proper nutrition. We are crystals and when we are in balance, there is light.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=194
June 26, 2009 at 10:33 am
Ursa, Have you searched out info on the occult symbols such as snakes, circles, X’s, grids (ley lines) related to chemtrails?
Just asking.
June 26, 2009 at 11:36 am
Don’t want to get into an argument over proper nutrition, sort goes into our bodies, Eric. Nothing, or very little, on this planet exists in pristine state. All has been corrupted or poisoned by man with his GMO’s, chems, soya additives, his own excrement and that emitted by a thousand factories, aspartame, fluoride and the stuff of nightmares we know not of. Yet.
You can plant an acre of land anywhere you like, Eric, grow your own food, adding all manner of nutrients etc. — a chem tanker flies over, executes a few fancy X’s and grids, and your food may look wholesome, may taste wholesome, but it is, nevertheless, toxic. The dirt itself is poisoned.
The very water falls from the heavens, the water you drink, be it from an expensive water ‘purifier’ or from your lowly tap, is not the water your or my grandparents enjoyed.
Greenhouse, you say? The same applies in any and all circumstances. Crystals, my jaundiced eye!
Actually, I trust many of us may be growing stronger, or less affected, building an immunity to various poisons, adapting to our new tainted environment, so to speak.
What we need is proper nutrition for our brains.
Clark: I like your “smoking might be good for us” theory as the “gov” seems hell bent on making everyone quit. Reminds me of Woody’s film, “Sleeper.” Perhaps, there’s a grain of truth in there somewhere. You spoke in jest, but I’m checking it out anyway.
Ciao!
June 26, 2009 at 11:58 am
Nuclear fallout, a panoply of illegal weapons Israhell is deploying in Gaza carried on the wind to every corner of the world (here in approx. 14 days) thousands of metric tons of asbestus, molten lead, mercury etc. released on 911, Chernobyl and the list goes on and on.
Now, Eric, I want you to stop and think. If you can’t do both, then just stop.
Best regards and no hard feelings, I hope.
911cont’d
June 26, 2009 at 12:22 pm
You guys, the bible is no ‘Celline’s book’, and actually, I believe it, too. Stop ridiculing her, it really bugs me.
As for my kids not wanting to look at my evidence, the problem is, that my husband has them all believing that I am being deluded by all those ‘conspiracy’ websites I am looking at. He is their dad, and they want to believe that he is a good guy. Unfortunately, I lose in the deal, which is very sad for me.
Even in order to come here, I have to have something else open to switch to when he comes into the room (and sometimes he’ll sneak up on me, too), or else he will give me a hard time. Fortunately I don’t have to worry right now, because he is on a four day canoe trip.
As for us knowing all the occult stuff (and maybe practicing it?), that is dangerous stuff. Those guys are all guaranteed to go to hell, I’d prefer not to end up there. While they have their money and power here on earth, in eternity the tables will be turned (if you are a Christian, that is).
Yes, I have done a lot of research on the occult and know about their symbols. But I had not connected them to the chemtrails specifically.
As for Bush reading the goat book upside down, no, that has somehow escaped me until now. I do believe that was a not so subtle sign.
June 26, 2009 at 1:04 pm
June 26, 2009
Russia’s FSB Reports Pop Icon Michael Jackson Assassinated By CIA
By: Sorcha Faal,
FSB sources are reporting to President Medvedev today that American pop icon Michael Jackson was “most assuredly” assassinated by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after an examination of data transmitted by a Russian Military’s Kosmos 2450 satellite show “conclusively” that immediately prior to the music stars death in Los Angeles an electromagnetic pulse consistent in pattern to EMR weapons looted from the former Soviet Union by the United States was employed at the “exact coordinates” of the rock stars home.
To the type of technology being perfected by the US Military-Industrial Complex based upon former Soviet Union research used in these kinds of assassinations we can read about as reported by Cheryl Welsh, president, Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse, in her landmark 2001 report “Electromagnetic Radiation (EMR) Weapons: As Powerful As The Atomic Bomb”, and which says:
“A newly declassified U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report says- extensive Soviet research into microwaves might lead to methods of causing disoriented human behavior, nerve disorders or even heart attacks…. A copy of the study was provided by the agency to The Associated Press in response to a request under the Freedom of Information Act. The Pentagon agency refused to release some portions of the study, saying they remain classified on national security grounds.”
Even more importantly, since Ms Welsh’s landmark report in 2001, the US has continued perfecting this insidious technology they’ve named Active Denial System (ADS), and as we can read as reported by New Scientist in their 2005 report titled “US Military seeks new non-lethal weapon; the prototype of the phaser?”, and which says:
“The US military is funding development of a weapon that delivers a bout of excruciating pain from up to 2 kilometres away. Intended for use against rioters, it is meant to leave victims unharmed. But pain researchers are furious that work aimed at controlling pain has been used to develop a weapon. And they fear that the technology will be used for torture.”
To the ‘final’ employment of these weapons [3rd photo, left] we can also read:
“In January 2007, Theodore Barna, an assistant deputy undersecretary of defense for advanced systems and concepts told Reuters that “We expect the services to add it to their tool kit. And that could happen as early as 2010”.
Apparently the military is still unsure about ADS after all the tests. Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne didn’t help clarify the issue when he suggested that the military should use the “pain ray” at crowds in the United States before deploying it in Iraq. It would be hard to imagine that Americans would be feeling okay about trying such weapons on themselves even if they believe they are not lethal.
Wagner suggested a new nickname for the weapon; the “death ray”, since it’s well-known that exposing mammals to microwaves make them explode. He sent an email all around the U.S. in which he used a live example to prove his theory.”
To the reason behind the CIA needing to assassinate Michael Jackson, these reports continue, was an out of court settlement the pop icon signed with son of the king of Bahrain, Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad al-Khalifa, this past November in London, and which stated, in part, that in exchange for millions of dollars previously lent to Mr. Jackson by the Sheikh, Mr. Jackson would allow his sold-out United Kingdom concerts to be a “platform” for warning the World of a soon to occur mass genocide event.
Both Michael Jackson and Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad al-Khalifa have been long standing supporters of the fearless Austrian investigative journalist, Jane Burgermeister, who is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway, and as we can read:
“Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.
In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.
Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.
The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the “bird flu” virus and the “swine flu virus” in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S. This action is in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.”
June 26, 2009 at 1:07 pm
If you think 3,000 people could be pulverized and liquified with technology we can only guess at, what in this world, prevents this self same entity from changing the word of God?
June 26, 2009 at 1:11 pm
We all have a past and some of us have been around a long time.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.e-ma-le.com
June 26, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Stef..don’t give up on Mother Earth. She has given us gifts that no man can undo.
http://cool-palimpsest.stanford.edu/waac/wn/wn18/wn18-1/wn18-106.html
June 26, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Ah! Conspiracy… and rumours of conspiracy. Jackson microwaved by the CIA. This one Amer, Amer, America can latch on to. 911 = 0. Jackson = 1.
Perhaps, the pantheon of other “idols” is gettin’ antsy they might be next?
Didn’t Mickey’s troubles begin around 1993, afterwhich he released his controversial song, “They Don’t Care About Us!”
“Both Michael Jackson and Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad al-Khalifa have been [,,,,] Jane Burgermeister, who is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway.
So he was on to something, was aiming to announce it to the world; hence, he was vaporized.
Ursa, your life is tragedy writ large. Don’t embarass youself any further regaling us with tales of Papa Bear and the wicked Stepsisters. Disneyworld beckons, Ursa, go to it.
Plus I didn’t say practice the occult arts, I said learn about them so you might better equipped to foresee what could happen or to interpret what has happened. Upside down books and all.
And don’t you worry about going to hell, Ursa, you’re already there.
Thanks Eric, very, very, innerestin’
Geez, the plot thickens.
911to be continued
June 26, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Actually, All of us may already be there.
June 26, 2009 at 3:20 pm
One last thing to say here…project camelot vids of Gordon Novell, Dr. Farrell and Jim Marrs would be better for you than any consumption of TV. Bookmark for future reference and come back when you have an open mind.
http://americanfreedomradio.com/
June 26, 2009 at 4:28 pm
…a couple of things: 99% of the British population also believe the Govt story about 911, so not just Americans.
there will be a lot of resistance in France to the mandatory ‘flu’ vaccines, so hopefully we’ll have another revolution.
Re the Michael Jackson thing: sounds feasible, and I recall seeing video of 1000s of coffins lined up out in Texas somewhere, ready for some sort of pandemic.
June 26, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Susan, I saw the video/pictures of all those plastic coffins, too. They must have manufactured them for something other than your normal, ordinary deaths. Something big.
It could be a war, or a pandemic they’ll make happen. Or just plain getting rid of all the troublemakers (which includes all Christians, I am sure).
I am afraid there won’t be too much resistance here in Canada or the States to forced vaccinations. Heck, even without being forced the sheeple line up every year by the thousands to get their annual flu vaccinations! If they would do their research first, they’d realize that they are killing their immune systems, not to mention making sure they get Alzheimers.
I guess the British watch a lot of the same news, their government is too connected to the US and Canadian governments, too. The rest of Europe somehow thinks differently (I’ve found a big difference when coming from Germany thirty years ago), and a lot of them hate the United States (not Canada, though). So, they’d be very critical of anything the US government says.
I am a little skeptical of Michael Jackson being killed for knowing too much and wanting to blow the whistle. The man was insane, not to mention a pedophile and being VERY unhealthy. He had plenty to hide, never mind blowing the whistle on anybody. I am surprised he lived as long as he did, it was his time to go (and good riddance, too).
That is not to say that I don’t believe they can kill people like that with those electromagnetic waves. I’ve done some research on that, and they can control people’s minds with those, as well as kill and/or torture. That is a terrible weapon, I seriously wonder if it is possible to resist under its influence or do whatever they want. They say it isn’t possible to resist, especially because you don’t know it is happening, I guess.
June 26, 2009 at 8:10 pm
@U, I read the same thing.. and I think, Michael was done in.
But as in all the other ” mysteries ” ( AnnaNicole, JFK,9/11. etc etc )
Nothing will come of it. Those in power will keep the lid on, where they want to.
As to ” we can’t resist, because we don’t know it’s happening”, I rely on God.. who will see after His own, surely. Without this hope, knowledge.
there’s nothing but despair. I have total faith in the ” Word ” !
I know how unpopular this attitude is, but in the end… God wins ( already has 2000 years ago ),and : the Prince of the Power of the Air.. is a defeated foe.
June 26, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Britain is the capital of cocaine + its a full-fledged police state.
The Brits will think + say what they’re told to and LIKE IT!
Uh, MJ was all those nasty things? Who told you? The piss-stream media?
Nothing odd or suspitious about the press’ unrelenting attacks? You think they went at him like a pack of hyenas on a carcass ’cause they were after the truth?
Right.
His song: “The Don’t Care About Us” sure hit the nail on the head, I’d say.
bye.
June 27, 2009 at 4:27 am
Blimey! Just watched the (prison version) of MJ’s They dn’t care – never seen it or heard it before, but it sure seemed to me like he was trying to get a message out. I don’t hear/wach the MSM, but have always been mighty suspicious of the press attacking someone non-stop, and throwing all sorts of accusations at them. Easier to dehumanise them and get the masses not taking anything they say seriously. Very powerful imagery in video.
UK and USA now Police States.
Where do you live Stef? You sure are one angry dude! But then so am I, I just show it by growing healthy food and proecting the environment. I wouldn’t want to be living in a city in the next twelve months.
June 27, 2009 at 6:07 am
Hi all
Nice to read here. I have been sent here by a friend.
Chemtrails are ALL OVER THE GLOBE.
It is incredible. Thousands and thousands of witnesses, blogs, webs, videos. You name it. Hw long this conspiracy of silence will go on.
How come nobody seems to work to alert the main population. I am living in Denmark and I tell you chemtrails are all over nearly every single day.
What can we do about this really? I have sent mail to danish weather institute but of course getting a simple denial answer. I even sent them copies of articles, photos and more….
In France chemtrails are all over. There are everywhere making a soup of our skies. The new generation won’t know how a real blue sky looks like.
What can we do? Make a petition worlwide? Collect our force? We must be maybe 100 of thousands today concerned about this subject. Do you have a good idea?
Love
June 27, 2009 at 6:56 am
Susan, I think it was Gore Vidal said it was rage kept him going and he’s in his 80’s. At this rate of rage I’ll live to be 1,000. Ha! Vidal’s one of my favourite NO BS historians and a vitriolic critic of the world as it is today.
I too am an avid gardener. As for “protecting the environment” I’ve said enuf ’bout dat.
Who amongst us still believes what the media tells us, has ever told us, after WACO? Oh, yeah, Ursa does.
Anyway, Susan, it’s nice to have a perceptive, angry woman on board, welcome. I live in Quebec.
Hi Carol too. I’ve sent letters/e-mails, made repeated calls, done pretty well what most of us do. The replies are polite and go like this:
1- Condensation
2- Clouds
3- Buh-bye
Worldwide petitions you can sign on the net. As for alerting the population, comes a time, after one has done all one can do with determination and imagination one says, F***k the population.
But don’t you be discouraged, Carol, keep trying, every once in a while you’ll find someone who’ll listen and that’s sweet.
If you and Susan read some of the comments in Part I and II you’ll find this is the place to be relating to chems…and loads of other stuff.
A bientot!
911=USrael to be cont’d
June 27, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I respect everyone’s right to practice a religion or not (I’m an atheist, and prefer to take responsibility for my actions during my short time on this planet) but one of my big problems with people who call themselves religious is that they are often not very nice to other people! Surely the Ten Commandments say something like ‘thou shalt be nice to other people’??
For example how can any of us really know what went on in Michael Jackson’s life, except for the physical appearance. Personally even that was quite interesting: neither black nor white, challenging us to see beyond colour, etc. We don’t know anything about celebrities lives except what the media tell us/ram down our throats. They are now telling us there was no fishy business in his death, so you can be sure there was fishy business…..
So Ursa, go a little easy on someone who was very, very talented and who must have had a strange childhood. You cannot surely say “good riddance’ if you are a Christian? Maybe you’ll meet him on the other side!!
More chemtrails in the sky above my house today, I’ll up-load the photos soon.
June 27, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Good news! American Airlines has corrected its Wikipedia entry for its flights 11 and 77 on 911 saying those two planes had not flown since December 2000.
NO AA FLIGHT 11 (North Tower) AND NO FLIGHT 77 (Pentagon) ON SEPT. 11, 2001 AND THE AIRLINE ITSELF ADMITS IT!
Norad’s fighters did not go after highjacked planes that day because there were no highjacked planes that day; what there was, was plenty of media coverage of MANIPULATED film footage. The media is complicit. Susan said it, if the media says one thing, then the opposite is true.
The passengers purportedly on those flights, you ask? I think they number in the “burnt offerings” on that Satanic day.
“Existentialist Cowboy” for more info.
Later,
911TruthNOW *USrael
June 27, 2009 at 2:55 pm
weirdest thing ever : The whole time my German company was here ( they left this morning ) we did not have one chemtrail.
My friend ( the German guy that was here ) is a VIP.. and I am asking: Is it possible ” they” did not want him to see this mess”? Could they have followed where he was.. and kept the sky clear? It’s crazy I know.. but.. would that be too strange? I sent Ursula’s pictures home to their computers.. and told them what’s really going on, of course, they believe me. And another thing, in Germany they always have coulds.. so they just might not notice the chemtrails. As of now though.. they are aware and will pay attention, good thing !
Clear Blue.. we had.. the whole time they were here.. nada nothing in the skies, just too weird. Thanx U for those great pictures.
June 27, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Hey Celline, let me say how thankful I am not to have to hear any more about your German company who never got to see a single, solitary chemtrail ’cause they were followed to your house and the clever ol’ chem tankers wanted to make you look foolish or wacko to your German company that goes, “Hmmmmmmmmm” a lot. Bon Voyage!
Get your head out of the clouds, Celline, or “coulds” as you call them, and go to “Existentialist Cowboy” and watch the revelatory videos of 911 and the info on AA’s Wiki correction re. flights 11 and 77, will you?
Everything that’s happening now is directly related to 911, chems included!
Naw, it’s not rampant paranoia…it’s gotta be the other.
911etc.
June 27, 2009 at 4:46 pm
@steff.. have u ever heard me ” complain ” about your chatter.. and the things that u found interesting ” I expect the same from you. Just skip what I have to say.. your comments are meaningless to me, as mine are to you. See.. we just agreed on something.
Leave me alone… and after all.. I was here be4 you, doesent mean anything really. Just making a point. You are not smarter than me.. just meaner.
Ciao…
June 27, 2009 at 5:40 pm
@Truth, in case u read this. Where have u gone to?
I sure miss your valuable imput.
Did you find a ” better” blog ?
I must reopen my sc name, had to lock it because of spam.
Please respond here, so I know if to open it or not, ok?
Thank you “C”
June 27, 2009 at 6:33 pm
You know, Stef, your attacks sure are getting old in a hurry. By the way, Celline’s friend is a very well known doctor, who travels all over the world, giving lectures. He is a lung specialist. If he is convinced that maybe chemtrails cause people to have lung disease, it just MIGHT make a huge impact. So, who knows, maybe Celine is onto something there. You don’t know who she is, and how important her contacts are, so why don’t you just try (I know, it will be almost impossible for you) to be a little more respectful of your elders and realize that they are not all stupid?
As for me believing ‘everything the media says’, even you must realize that can’t be true. For one thing, I wouldn’t even be here. If I would just stop caring about chemtrails and other conspiracies, my life would suddenly be much easier.
But I have never been able to pretend that things are normal and good, when I knew they aren’t. Which is why most of my books (hundreds of them) are about uncovering conspiracies. Like ‘The Ashes of Waco’ (which I bought ten years ago), ‘Unlimited Access’ which exposes the Clintons for who they are, ‘N.E.A., Trojan Horse in American Education’, proving without a doubt that our ‘education system’ has never been about education, and all about brainwashing, ‘Trashing the Economy, How Runaway Environmentalism is Wrecking America’, ‘The Murder of Vince Foster’…………………… and the list goes on for hundreds more titles.
BUT the media mixes truth with lies (which is why most people think the media is truthful), which makes them more dangerous than if they’d ONLY be telling lies. So, not everything they say is untrue, and it is for us to figure out what is true and what isn’t.
I realize more and more that you, Stef, Eric and Dude are New Agers. You do read the Bible, but you only read what you can use for your own purposes, and dismiss or purposely misinterpret the rest.
You hate Christians and Jews (which is why you ran off Truth, since he was both as a Messianic Jew), and would like to run off Celline and me as well. Of course Susan (no offense intended Susan, you seem nice enough), who is an atheist, is welcome here by you. Why is what she says appears to be worth more than what Celline and I say, just because we are Christians?
We are all guests here in this blog. Why don’t you try to get along with everybody? Just ignore comments you don’t like, since they obviously don’t hurt you. Celline wouldn’t hurt a fly, and neither of us would respond in kind and throw insults back at you.
We have the same right as you to post here. Just try respect and kindness for a change, it won’t kill you, I promise.
By the way, Susan, I also take responsibility for what I do while I am living on this planet. What makes you think that Christians don’t?
I doubt that I’ll see MJ on the ‘other side’, but since I am not God, I can’t know. I’ve often said that we will be surprised when we get to heaven by who we will find there who we thought wouldn’t make it, and who won’t be there, who we thought were good Christians. Only God knows. So, you are right, I shouldn’t have said, ‘good riddance’.
All out chemtrail attack here again today. I was driving out in the countryside, after dropping my youngest daughter off somewhere.
Beautiful countryside……….. birds singing, the sun shining, green fields, forest, idyllic farm houses with chemtrails above them, the droning of helicopters looking for marijuana in farmer’s fields……. planes in the sky, putting down more chemtrails……… how very peaceful.
Too bad I don’t have my good camera right now, my husband took it on his canoe trip. But the older one does a decent job of recording the chemtrails.
June 27, 2009 at 7:30 pm
@ Uschi, you say it all so much better, than I ever could ;o)
Only a very few chems in the East, they look like someone fingerpainted.. so totally out of place in our gorgeous crystal blue skies.
Even an idiot would have to see.. those are fakes.
To take biblical words out of context.. so they fit your purposes is a common terribly foolish thing to do.. yet, it’s being done by many all the time. It is dangerous, and stupid. “Do not be fooled..”…u know that scripture ! We can not change people.. only ourselves, but we can throw out the Truth. I will call ” Truth” I have his number… it is a real loss, for him to be no longer here.
A Nashville ” insider ” who manages tours, and knows all celebs over there.. just wrote me and said.. that Jacko’s death was due too prescribed meds, not foulplay. Who knows for sure, I just believe, that person probably is as close to the truth as anyone could be.
What’s new w. Iran ? Don’t hear anything anymore. Guess they got slapped down.
June 27, 2009 at 10:30 pm
So, while I was on the computer earlier, they had been busy ‘painting’ lines onto the sky! When I went to the window at around 8:00 p.m., I couldn’t believe it, there were huge crosses RIGHT over my house!
I grabbed my camera and took pictures, then changed into long pants, socks. running shoes and a cardigan to head back to that farmer’s field (I learned my lesson last time, when the mosquitoes and blackflies really got me) to record the sunset.
I went shopping afterward (our grocery store is open until 10:00 p.m. on Saturdays), and when I came out of the store, it was dark. But there, right beside the moon, was a fresh chemtrail. Meaning, that they are still at it! It makes me so mad.
June 28, 2009 at 12:48 am
wow Usch, do you think, they made those x es or crosses over your house for you to see? I mean.. I have noticed the same thing over my house also. It’s plain spooky and scary.
We had nothing today.. just a very few in the East.. over the desert.
Otherwise it was crystal blue. I hope I will get to see your pics of today.
June 28, 2009 at 12:51 am
My friends explained to me the reason they don’t notice them at all. they always have rain or clouds.. never a clear blue sky. So that explains the ” ignorance” in Germany.. but here ? with our blue forever skies.. how could people not notice ? total mystery to me.
June 28, 2009 at 2:04 am
Celline, no, I don’t think I am that important, in fact, it is highly unlikely that those people even know I exist. It is just coincidence that those crosses ended up being right over my house. Of course, they weren’t there long, as it was windy, and they drifted off to the east of me.
It was freaky, the whole sky was criss-crossed by thin lines (they had connected, but were still clearly visible), and those fat chemtrails below those were throwing shadows onto that background. It really looks very surreal when looking at my pictures.
And yes, you’ll get to see some of them, but I don’t have the time to put them up tonight. It may have to wait until Monday.
Are your friends from Hamburg? Since Hamburg has nearly always clouds, and so much rain (and that’s the way it has always been), most people there wouldn’t notice, even if they watched the sky.
June 28, 2009 at 8:12 am
Well, this morning the sky looks very odd. There is thick, grey ‘cloud’ cover with bulges and ripples in it. This time the sun hasn’t got a chance to get through, it is quite dark. The weather report says that we’ll have rain today and all week, with thunderstorms tonight.
We ALWAYS seem to get thunderstorms after a day of heavy spraying. Every time. And the storm clouds don’t look the same any more at all. I used to be able to look at clouds, and say, “Look guys, those look like storm clouds, I think we’ll have a thunderstorm.”
Not any more. Now they have changed the clouds so much, that it is unpredictable. It is just this strange looking, wavy, rippled mass in the sky, grey instead of black for the most part (and if the clouds are black, they are those ‘asperatus’ things), and suddenly there is a thunderstorm.
And I bet children today think those are ‘typical’ storm clouds. Even last year I could predict a thunderstorm by looking at the clouds. Only this year they are this changed.
So, how is it that everybody but me seems to think it is normal around here? Have none of them ever studied the clouds and the weather before, so they can see this is abnormal? Apparently not. I guess I am the odd one out, as usual. I am the one who always notices details others don’t.
June 28, 2009 at 8:32 am
Every day . Every day .
What can I say ?
The sky terrorists come.
There goes my sun,
Covered in chemtrail scum,
And my mind goes numb.
Our rain gets vaporized ,
The awakened are terrorized.
While the sheeple tick along.
The blind see nothing wrong.
But I’m still sane.
And I feel the pain.
Nowhere to run . Nowhere to hide.
Chemtrails are ecocide.
June 28, 2009 at 8:54 am
I’ve been down with sickening migraines this week. BC ( before chemtrails) I never had more than a handful my entire life. AC, this changed.
Fri. afternoon they started spraying the agent that gives me the WORST headaches. These are the chemtrails that mimic contrails in that they rapidly become invisible to the eye. Then during the night, they sprayed again with a different agent that produced the ” typical ” chemtrail gray-out.
Is there such a thing as chemtrail fashion ?
Years ago , grids were in vogue.
Last spring, the wispy cirrus knock-offs were all the rage.
Then they added to the collection with the popcorn style chems.
Oh, they still trot out the old X’s once in awhile, but this year it looks like the heavy chem blankets, and rolling bands of dark gray toxic matter will steal the show.
Whatever will they dream of next ?
Sky fashion from hell…compliments of the satanic NWO.
June 28, 2009 at 9:53 am
Coming soon to a sky above you…. cloud fashions from hell.
Come one, come all ! You are cordially invited to attend. Attend ? Well, truth be told ( and we don’t tell the truth very often ), attendance is not optional. Attendance is mandatory. Compulsory. Forced. But those words don’t have such a nice ring to them, do they ? So let’s stick to ” attend “.
Price of admission – FREE. Free show for all. Well, OK. Not really free. There will be a small price to pay . A very small price, negligible. The bats and bees will die, the birds too. Some areas will be subjected to never ending droughts, others to floods. In either case, famine will come. Strange and incurable skin diseases will become common and many people will sicken and die a protracted,gruesome death( our target is a 90 % soft kill rate ). But, as stated, this is indeed such a small price that MOST people, the vast, sleeping majority will never even take notice. zzzzzzzzz
But, what we’d really like isn’t your life. Hell, that’s always been ours for the taking. Any time we choose .No, what we have in mind is something a bit more substantial.A more valuable commodity than your lives, an infinitely more precious asset. Can you guess what it is ? Your soul . We want your soul.
Once you are able to transcend the petty, mortal mindset that most of you suffer from, once you open your souls to the eternal cosmic music of death and destruction, once you disavow yourselves of your silly Gods and your selfish morality…then …then… you will finally be able to grasp the awesome beauty and power on display for you in your skies.
In gratitude, you will fall on your knees and worship us !
This message brought to you by : Satan and his NWO foot soldiers.
June 28, 2009 at 10:35 am
The most destructive thing in this dimension is not hatred. It wasn’t hatred that caused the Holocaust. It wasn’t hatred that destroyed 200 million last century. Hitler and his chief henchmen had Jewish friends. True hatred is very rare.
The most destructive energy here , by far, is deception.
We are surrounded and drowning in a sea of lies. Govts are the biggest liars, promise utopia and without fail, deliver one of Dante’s circles of hell.
What is satan’s biggest lie ? answer- That he doesn’t exist .
June 28, 2009 at 11:31 am
The chinese people in my city know the war is coming. I surprised one of em yesterday. She wanted to know how I knew about it.
What is the governments biggest lie? its Nibiru and them hiding it with the billion-dollar, global chemtrail program.
Why did the government classify all asteroid events secret last week? Nibiru.
Why did the chinese sub destroy one of our pull-behind sonar arrays? The same reason the russians took out our satellite a couple months ago, theyre preparing to exterminate us.
June 28, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I’ll say this for you, Dude, you’re persistent. My hat’s off to you!
No doubt in my mind chems are predominantly a cloaking device of sorts. There are multi-purposed, but I agree with you that their highly reflective quality is meant to conceal something.
Another possibility is that they will act as a silver screen or backdrop in preparation for the world’s scariest sky show (Project Bluebeam etc.). Either way, I’m interested in that aspect of it.
As for war, yeah, that too, and in spades. Besides, the “elite” will be compelled to do something radical since the 911Truth movement is no longer relegated to the fringes of society in the States.
Now Ursa: As for “notables” staying at certain “people’s” houses and not being chemed because they are “world-renowned” and could make a stink about it, well, that’s purely, and what’s more worrisome, consistently, delusional.
Chems can be seen thickly spread over the Vatican, over the White House, over the Kremlin, everywhere. I’d say the Luciferians in residence at those places are fairly “notable,” wouldn’t you? And, yet, they are not spared. Why not?
What is old and tiresome is your endless pontificating and efforts to realign the paradigms of the discussion into a forum for female complaints, gossip and other inanities.
Why you feel it necessary to share your bug bites, shopping trips, wardrobe items, troubles at home etc. is beyond me and, quite frankly, would be better suited to women’s magazine columns.
I’ll leave it to others to contend with this particular brand of nonsense:
“I realize more and more that you, Stef, Eric and Dude are New Agers. You do [....] purposely misinterpret the rest.
You hate Christians and Jews [....] me as well.”
Mustn’t forget Cellne: Your bouts of pouting and snubbing, your total abscence of humour, especially your inability to make light of yourself, your silly tantrums when contradicted etc. all of this suggests a galloping infantilism, if you get my drift.
“I was here be4 you.” What’s this, kindergarten?
No time to delve into Nightmares’ Zoloft (or other) induced nightmarish episoodies.
Thanks again FF. I appreciate your astute observations and enlightening comments, even the inimitable way you rap on the knuckles of “some” folks when they get out of line, that is, out of line with the “refined” confines of this forum.
Since I’ve copied all pertinent info–pertinent to me anyway–from this site…Ladies, the floor is now entirely yours!
Cluck, cluck, cluck on,
911=USrael
June 28, 2009 at 1:55 pm
stef: im persistent because i am right about this and i know it.
somebody labeled me a new ager? haha, and say i “hate” people?
i believe what the evidence shows me, despite the fact that most all people want to ignore the evidence right in front of their faces.
I dont hate anyone but i do hate stupidity and willful ignorance and have very limited patience with it. well, i guess i hate governments too.
Noah encountered people like this too and they all learned just like the ones now are going to learn — too late.
June 28, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Ursula..there are so very few people aware of chemtrails that it is possible the X’s in the sky are for you. One thing I think we should consider is that we aren’t here to preach to the converted and we’re not here to convert. I think we can agree that they are spraying worldwide; that it is something aggregious and completely disgusting that chemtrails separate us from the sky and all of its complement and that there are many (pilots, weathermen, gov’t, media, etc. that know this is happening and will not challenge the ptb to make it public. This raises the question of who is the ptb.
the Congress recently passed the “cap and trade” carbon credit legislation. Before Bush could accept global warming, he was already out of office. Before big oil could accept global warming, a Canadian company in Sask. had to show them that government will give them credits to sequester carbon underground and when you do that, it pushes more oil into your pipeline. Now the lawyers are busy trading carbon credits with Somalia because lawyers get paid, polluters are let off the hook, Gore gets the kick back, bankers get their traffic and we the public pay for all of it with a carbon tax. Here in B.C. I already pay 7 cents a l. carbon tax (effective July, 2009) and 15 to 20 dollars a month for natural gas to heat my home. The legislation passed on Friday will cost the American tax payer $175 per every man, woman and child a year and that is just the start.
Now how does that mean a tinker’s dam with regard chemtrails? ummm.. maybe chemtrails is causing global warming?
June 28, 2009 at 3:15 pm
@Uschi, can u do me a big favor please?
I need to know if Nashville has chems ! I can’t find a thing about it. My daughter just moved there.. and sais, just as usual:” There are no chemtrails here.. neither were their any in California.. I don’t want to hear another word about it “.. just like your family Uschi, I go thru the same thing. But Nashville.. I need to know, will u help me find some info about that town, please?
Our skies today are as clear as they were yesterday.. have not yet checked out the East.. where there were some, yesterday. Thanx ;o)
June 28, 2009 at 3:18 pm
@Uschi.. no, they live in Halle, where there are equally many rainclouds all the time, just like in Hamburg . Halle-Leipzig_Dresden… is where they live.. SachsenAnhalt, u know?-
June 28, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Nashville chemtrails: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nugju8bWMI
June 28, 2009 at 4:40 pm
@Antie, thank you so very very much ;o)
June 28, 2009 at 4:46 pm
@Anti, can u tell me how recent this video is.. and, is this a daily occurance or rather rare ? Again, I thank you !
June 28, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Celline: im Dude. i dont know when it was filmed but I assure you that whenever Nibiru is visible, they are spraying. You might try asking the guy but I dont think hes very cooperative but he might be with you.
In Va, they skip about three days every month but then it is heavy all day the rest of the month when there are no clouds already. it is the same today and will be the same until the war.
June 28, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Celline, yes, there are chemtrails sprayed over Nashville (like any city in North America, really, and even small towns, like mine).
Here are some links to check out:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/pentagramchemtrailsovernashville13mar07.shtml
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme/zulucowboy/index.htm
http://weatherwars.info/?page_id=16 (scroll down a little to see the picture of chems over Nashville)
http://www.rense.com/general2/turkey.htm (he talks about Nashville in the third paragraph from the top)
http://www.articlebliss.com/article_marketing_videos/v-9Nugju8bWMI/nashville.html (I bet you’ll know who the first commenter, ‘antilieguy’ is)
http://www.nicenetruth.com/home/2007/11/chemtrails-silv.html Read what he says, he lives in Nashville (you’ll find out the third paragraph down from the top)
June 28, 2009 at 5:25 pm
@Dude, Thank you, this was so very nice of you to help me w. this. Now.. which GUY do you mean, that I should ask? I do not understand?
June 28, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Celline: Ask the guy/girl that posted the video on youtube when the video was filmed. He/she wouldnt post my comment so i dont like him/her.
Heres the link to their profile: http://www.youtube.com/user/Yoetah
June 28, 2009 at 5:53 pm
ok Dude, I will ! Just right now.. I am watching chemtrails rushing in from the West messing up our azur, gorgeous sky ;(
The white hazy kind, those shapeless Blobs.. arghh
June 28, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Yep. Im sick of them. they spray them every single day here. thats one reason I keep posting on youtube even after they threatened me with the patriot act for talking about chemtrails and Nibiru and the war. God didnt show me all this for me to shut up about it, haha. and to top it off, one of my friends brought me a cold…probably the CDC-created bird/pig/people flu but i dont know.
June 28, 2009 at 6:09 pm
@Dude, I just did some searching about Niribu.
Sorry, I forgot his name, but.. there is a scientist answering questions about Niribu.. and he sais, it is a huge Hoax.
Just repeating what I just read ok? Did not make it up.
June 28, 2009 at 6:12 pm
@Dude, u were nice to me, and I want to return the ” favor “. Please would u go to : John, 3 – 16, or and read that whole chapter please. and then would u tell me what it sais… and importantly, what it sais to you Personally ? Now, you are getting somewhere, for real ;o)
June 28, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Celline:
hahahaha thats funny. you seriously expect a “scientist” to admit to Nibiru??? theyre spending billions to cover it up and a scientist is going to tell the truth? i bet there are a hundred scientists who will tell you that chemtrails are just persistent contrails too.
I know very well what john 3:16 says but I do not understand the mechanism by which that works and neither do you. We can not understand Gods ways, we just have to accept what He had His people write for us. And yes, I believe what it says. Jesus also talks about the way to God is within you.
i try to be nice most of the time but i run out of patience after like a million times and you all arent the millions, just a couple of them
I dont want to get into this debate again either. theres tons of stuff for you to read in your bible that describes nibiru perfectly, and this war, and this country. A good example is Jesus’ telling us there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars and the earth and earthquakes in diverse places…all of which are happening now. And i dont rule out all the other ancient writings (many from every place on earth) that describe it perfectly either. There is also the thing where NASA announced they found Nibiru with their IRAS satellite in 1983 and 2 weeks later made sure that everybody knew that it was a “mistake”.
The Bible describes chemtrails effects too, it says that in the great day of destruction there will be water flowing from every hill. that is from the continuous cloud seeding with chemtrails to hide the planet, or most likely a brown dwarf star.
Thank you for your effort, it is appreciated. You remind me of my Mom, who is very nice, but she wont listen to me either. In fact, she got real mad at me one day over chemtrails but after she did a little research, she knows. She wont read her bible or research anything else though and insists that im crazy but ill get to see the look on her face when it all goes down if im still here.
June 28, 2009 at 6:39 pm
i asked the person when the nashville chemtrail video was taken. ill post it when they reply.
June 28, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Heres another nashville chemtrail video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt5qeagN3zo
The person on the last one said “yeah, the spraying in Nashville is extremely heavy.”
June 28, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Thanx Dude, but I don’t know about any ” mechanisms” in the Bible.
I simply had intended, that u read a short little bit.. and then LISTEN.
Because once you learn THIS.. is when the answers come.
I know I know.. too weird to not be called crazy by NewAgers … yet I know what I know.
Dude, your mom sounds nice, tell her hello from me.
I understand your point about scientists in general.. yet the opposits also exists.. those who get “s…….” know what I mean?
Overall…. I hope we can communicate in peace and friendship from here on, enjoyed our chat !
June 28, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Im not a newager. Im just me. No group, no religious order, no political order anymore, just lil ole me. I make up my mind based on ALL evidence i can find regarding pretty much everything. i bet new age groups would call me a fundamentalist bible thumper because i believe the Bible but thats not true either.
I know Jesus died on the cross for our sins but I do not understand how that works just like I know UFOs fly but i dont know how they do it (well i got some ideas on that one).
Mom stays on one of the bingo games all the time. Ill tell her Hi. Shes about your age I think.
Ill be nice but if you tell me something that directly contradicts the Bible which you say you believe in, Im still gonna call you crazy as a box of rocks, but Ill mean it in the nicest way.
June 28, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Celline, I don’t know what happened. I put a long post in here, with LOTS of links to chemtrail evidence from Nashville. And now it is gone.
I’ll have to try finding them again. But what I found shows that there is very heavy chemtrail spraying going on over Nashville all the time.
I have just updated my chemtrail pics, to include everything up to today.
Stef, it is too bad you are leaving because of us ’stupid, silly ladies’. But you know, thanks to your extreme rudeness, I am sad to say, I certainly won’t miss you. I hope that you will learn some day that kindness will get you farther than rudeness, and wanting things ‘your way or the highway’.
June 28, 2009 at 8:18 pm
@Uschi.. aww girl, thank you, but indeed they never showed up here. It means much to me to see them, since Yvonne denies their existance !! And she lives there !
Our chems are rolloing in just now.. from the Pacific.. nice gross creepy looking things. Dude.. eh….. New Age = Old Babylon, I did not mean to accuse you at all. Only thing is.. any and all beliefs that are not Christ centered ARE NewAge…. You my friend are a truth searcher.. yet are searching often in all the wrong places. ( This happens to all of us sometimes )NOT accusing you in specific, ok?
Another thing Dude, I do not ever say anything anti bible, I would not be able to. The only thing I can think of, is.. that we easily could err.. and put our own interpretations into the word. This is why it is so important to read in Context.. and not seek out those places.. where they would fit our own thoughts and wants, see what I mean?
Read.. and let it drop deep into your heart.. is the best advise I can think of. The day I understood WHO Jesus is.. is when I found the Truth.. and more than this.. I found who I was ! That was Big, and I will never forget that day !
Thank you so much Uschi, I’d love to have your find, should you rediscover it.
June 28, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Since I never read stef’s comments, I did not realize he/she is leaving.
What a funny thing, I kept thinking, I would be the one.
But, I decided to stay, because the good by far outweighs the bad in this blog.Love the info and love the sharing. FF has lots of Blogs out there.. I found them all, and I am sure.. dear Stef will find one of those more suiting to her particular style of blogging. FF knows how to deal w. the difficulties those blogs can bring.. he will keep things in line, am sure !
If anyone finds anything about Nashville, I do appreciate everything u can find and pass on to me. Thanx….
June 28, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Celline: do you realize what you said with this comment?
“any and all beliefs that are not Christ centered ARE NewAge”
i guess according to that definition, I am new age then because I believe in a ton of stuff thats not Christ centered. I believe theres birds in my yard. darn new age birds, that must be why they chirp all the time.
Nibiru is Christ centered though cause He told us all about it. He told us about this coming war too but Ezekiel did it better (out of what was allowed in the Bible).
you should listen to stef too, hes kinda smart on some things but i think he tries to humor yall too much. besides ya know ya gotta have a little drama……hehe
June 29, 2009 at 1:08 am
oh Dude.. the birds and the bees have nothing to do w. “religion” they are creation, just like we are. Yoy understood exactly what I said.. please don’t play dumb.. ok?
There are so many ” religions” out there, but there’s only 1 way to God.. is what I meant, and yea.. you understood what I meant.
Just took the dogs 4 a walk.. the moon has a few halos, all colors of the rainbow. and the skies are covered w. you know what.
Even my dogs started sneezing.
Have you heard about Mandatory immunizations for the swineflu??
Don’t know when this will start, but I heard , it will. What are you going to do ?
June 29, 2009 at 2:07 am
Celline:yea i know what you mean but you dont know what i mean. Historical documents do not have to be worshipped to understand what they say and every society on earth tells us about Nibiru, including the Bible. Every prophet tells us we will be destroyed before Nibiru arrives too, especially the Bible. i dont know why I try to convince anybody….whats anybody gonna do? I guess I do it cause the Bible says to warn people.
Ill be dead before I let anybody force me to have an immunization. There are too many examples where immunizations are way more deadly than what theyre supposed to be protecting against (intentionally). I would most certainly greet forced vaccination as attempted murder with all that implies. besides i already have the cdc pig flu. I met my first youtube agent promoting vaccine safety. LIAR.
June 29, 2009 at 2:26 am
you have that flu?? Tell me, I am not sure I understand what u said!
OK.. I will look up.. where in the Bible it talks about Nibiru.. gimme that scripture ok?
G’night.
June 29, 2009 at 2:50 am
I put a lot of the Bibles references in my document. it is like the USA….its effects are described perfectly but its not named, its just referred to as the time of our visitation and the great earthquake.
I assume i have the cdc-created pig/spanish/bird flu because i dont know of another one going around and i have all the reported symptoms….the non-life-threatening ones anyway.
June 29, 2009 at 2:58 am
Dude wrote:
Ill be dead before I let anybody force me to have an immunization. There are too many examples where immunizations are way more deadly than what they’re supposed to be protecting against (intentionally). I would most certainly greet forced vaccination as attempted murder with all that implies.
I agree 100%. Well said.
It is obvious to me the World Governments are laying the ground-work for a laboratory created pandemic and their “solution” will be mandatory vaccinations.
Not for me. Let’s see David Rockefeller, Ted Turner, Baxter pharmaceutical Executives and all the other eugenics-loving New World Order bastards roll THEIR SLEEVES-UP and take their own poison!
Everyone has to decide for themselves what their personal “line-in-the-sand” is. I have several. Forced vaccinations is one of them.
Cheers,
FoundingFather1776
June 29, 2009 at 7:53 am
Hey, I just looked, and my post with all the links to Nashville spraying is now there! Who knows what happened, but it posted eventually. Very odd. So, Celline, go back up to find it.
I agree 100% on the forced vaccination. There is absolutely NO WAY anybody in my family will allow that. In fact, I am the one who made Celline aware of that. There is a petition going around about it with excellent information, here is the link.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/a-universal-declaration-of-resistance-to-mandatory-vaccinations
June 29, 2009 at 8:27 am
By the way, Dude and Celline, the video both you and I linked to yesterday about chems over Nashville HAS BEEN REMOVED NOW! Can you believe it? When going to the youTube link, it says it has been removed by the user. If following my link (where both of you commented), the space where the video was is now blank.
The Internet is being censored by SOMEBODY, I wonder who? (sarcasm)
June 29, 2009 at 11:28 am
That dude who posted the nashville chemtrail vid seemed cool and he asked me how i commented on it because he thought he had already removed it. Ask him if ya want. he said he is highly suspicious of everybody….cause of the agents I guess…..like i was here until i realized that you folks werent really agents.
June 29, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Well, apparently both Celline and I watched the video yesterday. Why would he want to remove it?
June 29, 2009 at 12:40 pm
I dont know. he told me he already thought he removed it. dont forget that youtube is crawling with agents but i dont think hes one of them. Im messing with one of em now. I just called him a traitor and accused him of treason. haha, they gonna get me one of these days – if they do it in the next 3 months, that is.
June 29, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Media are everywhere, and we have to learn to meet them on their own ground. To defend against their pressures we must learn to read them with a skeptical eye, rather than be overwhelmed by their forcefully communicated values. We need to approach them critically, via reflection, the way Perseus reflected Medusa’s face in his mirrored shield.
Our reflecting technique goes under the name of “media literacy,” and it may begin to do for us what Perseus’s polished shield did for him. To use McLuhan’s terms, if Perseus had gazed directly into the face of his Medusa, he would have suffered an all-too-permanent case of “perceptual numbing.” To prevent being turned to rock by our contemporary Medusa, we need to do some reflecting of our own. We need to reflect continually and critically on media and their effects. The aim of this reflection will be to disengage ourselves, so that media are no longer “extensions” of our powers to think, feel, and imagine. There are a great number of ways to aim the reflecting shield of media literacy, and all of them result in our somehow saying “no” to the forms, values, and assumptions implicit in media. Media literacy should remind us continually that what we are seeing and hearing are representations of the world, and not the world itself.
June 29, 2009 at 3:23 pm
that sure was a long-winded philosophical way of saying “kill your television”!
June 29, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I was talking about you.
June 29, 2009 at 3:35 pm
well why didnt you just say so? and I am not media.
June 29, 2009 at 3:55 pm
June 29, 2009 at 4:36 pm
@Dude.. ONE scripture please, that mentions ” nibiru.. ONE..ok?
I know where it sais ” Wormwood” yes, but I can’t find a Nibiru anywhere.. I looked !
June 29, 2009 at 4:44 pm
ok.. found Wormwood = Injustice
Jer: 9-15
Rev: 8-11
Amos: 5-7
June 29, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Celline: chernobyl is ukranian for wormwood. wormwood refers to the radiation poisoning that will come from the fallout from the Russian nukes.
my document has the scriptures that accurately describe Nibiru’s effects. The name Nibiru is not used just like the name United States of America is not used but they both are described in very great detail.
what would/could cause the greatest earthquakes since man has been on the earth, stars falling from heaven, the changes in the sun-earth-moon, the earth standing still, the magnetic field collapsing…? nibiru perfectly fits and it is also described by every ancient civilization on earth and NASA announced they found it in 1983.
good enough for me.
June 29, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Ask yourself why they are spraying chemtrails every day all over the world. Also ask why they are now classifying all asteroid events secret. Im only still typing this cause I like yall. Seems ive typed this stuff about a million times.
June 29, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Dude.. I am doing my homework here.. I do respct any serious research.
Yet some results.. I must not accept as true thing.
I am not going back in the blog and read everything, my request is a very simple one: GIVE ME the scripture where u found this. What is so hard about that ? Why i s it too much to ask?
Wormwood = Injustice.. just like I said be4. Seems to me that Wormwood is describing some nuclear disaster.. am still reading.
So now you can’t say I am ignoring your research.. but eh.. when I do research, I am very thourough, digging and digging.
You know what bugs me about your research is, that you give Dates.. God did not give us those. Jesus did not know.. but you do?
We are to watch the times and the signs.. well.. back to reading.
June 29, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Ezekiel 24:1-2 gives the date and so does kings and jeremiah. the time of the year (fall) is also given in the Bible.
Do you have a text version of the Bible that you can search? That is very handy. A search for earthquake or stars will yield many results.
my document is here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/16612974/War-News
there is one box near the end that shows the occurrences of the dates and times of the year.
On the Nibiru/Planet X page is the best scriptures describing the earthquakes.
Make it full screen where you can see it. I actually dont remember the book/verse cause ive read so much. I also know that for the first several time i read amos, ezekiel, isaiah, and jeremiah i got more and different details every time i read it. Revelation describes the earthquakes somewhere.
if you ask, God will/may give you the knowledge. If all that doesnt help you, let me know and Ill go find them again.
June 29, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Im bored. I did it anyway.
Earthquakes:
Luke 21, Revelation 6, Revelation 16
Date/time of year:
Ezekiel 24:1-2, Jeremiah 52:4, 2Kings 25:1, Amos 7:1, Jeremiah 8:20, Isaiah 18:5, Amos 1:1-2
June 29, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Great, Thank you
June 29, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Dude, FYI – I added a direct link to your document at the top of this article so people can find it easily.
I can’t say for sure if you are right or wrong in your interpretation……I guess time will tell. I have looked at your document and at some other evidence as well. There are some interesting avenues of research I want to pursue further.
I can see that you have put a lot of effort into your research and that is something I wish more people would do.
Because of my own “awakening” to the amazing reality (indeed the “matrix”) that we live in, I do not (as I often used to do) dismiss theories out-of-hand anymore. I remain open-minded and try to confirm or disprove information to the best of my abilities.
As I freely admitted in my essay “I remember 9/11″ which can be found here:
http://foundingfather1776.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/i-remember-911/
I started out just accepting the Government lies about 9/11. I am not ashamed to admit I was wrong, because how can we learn to grow if we do not admit to past mistakes? I learned first-hand that it is foolish to always believe you are right. You have to question YOURSELF and re-evaluate constantly what you believe to be true in the face of new evidence. Many people’s ego’s are too frail to allow this to happen. I guess I am fortunate in that I do not care what people *think* – but I care a great deal about UNDERSTANDING THE TRUTH!
Almost every individual that has posted on this blog has occasionally made the mistake of coming across like they are the sole repository of an absolutely correct interpretation of the subject at hand. Then the discussion devolves into back-and-forth bickering (which thankfully hasn’t happened much lately) and then all real sharing of knowledge is stopped dead in it’s tracks because everyone feels THEY ARE RIGHT about the subject at hand, be it the Bible, Nibiru, Chemtrails, Esoteric Knowledge, etc. This is also the same philosophical problem I have with someone that states they are an atheist. An atheist states they *KNOW* there is no God. How can they know this? I have much more respect for someone that declares themselves to be an “agnostic” because they are making the distinction that, while they don’t *think* there is a God, they are not stating with certainty one doesn’t exist.
Now please don’t misunderstand the implications of what I am saying. I am not trying to deny that we can ever reach a firm conclusion. I am saying the issues that we can come to a firm conclusion about are are much rarer than we might think, and on the remaining issues, if we hope to have a chance to achieve real discernment, we better keep an open mind and be prepared to do a LOT of hard work (reading, research, discussion, THINKING, etc.) Life’s mysteries are not easily revealed to the casual observer.
Again, let me use 9/11 as an example. I personally spent over two years of intense research over every aspect of 9/11. I can state unequivocally and with full conviction the official story of 9/11 is a total lie, and that our own Government was deeply involved in the attacks and the cover-up. I can’t tell you the name of who pushed the buttons, I can’t say for sure what actually hit the Pentagon, or if the plane over PA was shot-down or purposely crashed, but overall, I can tell you the official story is a LIE!
There are a lot of smart people that read and post on this blog and I have learned something from each of you, and I also hope that this blog has helped each of you take away some new knowledge or insight. That is why I like to keep the tone friendly and the information flowing. However, honest disagreements over ideas are also good because they tend to sharpen the focus of both parties, and stimulate MORE research and discussion.
Kindest Regards,
FoundingFather1776
June 30, 2009 at 1:23 am
@Founding ; You’r Good, very good ;p, praising, scolding, setting boundries etc etc, you do it better than anyone I ‘ve ever known
Reading you makes me feel like I’m 12… haha, memories flooding into my brain ( what’s left of it ) ;o)
@Dude, I did read and read. Yes, there is this date a few times, and it’s 10/10 ! These all are prophesies about Israel, one is for Egypt.
Have not yet found the slightest evidence for Niribu though.
Thank you for giving me the scriptures u were referring to.
June 30, 2009 at 3:13 am
For the last three days there’s been no chemtrails, all blue skys, wonderful cool air.
I did see blue ripples, that was very surreal. The ripples appeared like they were confined to a small circular area.
Three days ago, we were getting heavily chemtrailed, I saw one of those big X’s in the sky. I’ve only seen that one other time. It sure does make you feel like you’re a target.
June 30, 2009 at 5:32 am
FoundingFather: you should be a diplomat. bravo.
Celline: Yes, those prophecies are for Israel in the land that the Israelites came into, not the land they left. Now go read the description of this country on the two pages following the war news in my document. It perfectly describes a country that could not possibly any other country but this one. And this country is the one that Russia has been threatening for the past two years.
clark: they skip days here too sometimes, like yesterday but the stuff they spray is still in the air. Im thinking sometimes this thing is more visible than others, kinda like the moon but different.
June 30, 2009 at 5:52 am
Nibiru’s effects from the Bible:
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. - Revelation 6
And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. – Revelation 16
(this is from our collapsing magnetic field)
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring — Luke 21
Nibiru described in ancient Egyptian scrolls:
Men forget the days of the Destroyer. Only the wise know where it went and that it will return in its appointed hour. When ages pass, certain laws operate upon the stars in the Heavens. Their ways change, there is movement and restlessness, they are no longer constant and a great light appears redly in the skies. When blood drops upon the Earth, the Destroyer will appear and mountains will open up and belch forth fire and ashes. Trees will be destroyed and all living things engulfed. Waters will be swallowed up by the land and seas will boil. The Heavens will burn brightly and redly, there will be a copper hue over the face of the land, followed by a day of darkness. A new moon will appear and break up and fall. The Doomshape is like a circling ball of flame which scatters small fiery offspring in its train. It covers about a fifth part of the sky and sends writhing snakelike fingers down to Earth. Before it the sky appears frightened, and it breaks up and scatters away. Midday is no brighter than night. It spawns a host of terrible things. These are things said of the Destroyer in the old records, read them with a solemn heart, knowing that the Doomshape has its appointed time and will return. It would be foolish to let them go unheeded. Now men say, “Such things are not destined for our days”. May the Great God above grant that this be so. But come, the day surely will, and in accordance with his nature man will be unprepared.
June 30, 2009 at 10:54 am
Chemtrails and global warming seem to have similar timelines in that both seem to have come to the attention of the public roughly 1996. We know that HAARP has been around even longer than that and we know that it’s not just a scientific project to collect data on the ionosphere though I’m sure that is going on.
Ice sheets the size of Manhatten broke away from Ellesmere Island in 2005 and completely melted away by 2008. This data suggest global warming. By 2006, Russia, Canada, Denmark, Iceland and the U.S. begin to move on the prospect that 20% of the world’s oil resources are in the Arctic. Is it possible chemtrails trap heat and is it possible that global warming is just one effect chemtrails perpetrate?
Oil and coal in the Arctic are a product of the Cretaceous period when the Earth’s atmosphere was 10% carbon dioxide. Our atmosphere is 481 parts per million carbon dioxide or .1%. We could use more carbon dioxide to feed the world’s population. We don’t need more cadmium, hydrogen flouride, mercury, lead, etc. in the atmosphere but legislation to protect us from these toxic elements is not forthcoming. The aluminum and barium found in chemtrails must be studied for their effects before we allow exposure to all flora and fauna found on the planet.
June 30, 2009 at 10:55 am
Dude/Steve/lies: “Who:” saw Niburu in 1983 and where is your link to that discovery? Just asking.
June 30, 2009 at 11:10 am
Very heavy rain yesterday, with intermittent thunderstorms. This morning started out with some clouds and some chems and some blue in between, but now it is all huge clouds (some black, some gray and some white). Anywhere the blue sky is visible in between, you can see the chems above the clouds.
We are supposed to get more thunderstorms for several days. I can’t help but think those chemtrails high up above all those clouds have something to do with it.
And we are always getting all this rainy, stormy weather after a day of heavy spraying. I don’t believe it is a coincidence.
June 30, 2009 at 11:23 am
eric: Besides there being plenty information in my document (including the link to a very good Nibiru presentation), heres more links for you:
http://www.rense.com/ufo5/nib2000.htm
http://www.smith-mountain-lakes.com/surviving-nibiru-2012/washington_post_artical_12-31-1983.htm
http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/6thSeal_PlanetX.htm
June 30, 2009 at 11:25 am
Ursa: the chemtrails SEED the clouds that form. They make clouds that produce rain. That is why the Bible says that there will be water flowing from every hill in the great day of destruction.
June 30, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Well my friend, I appreciate your efforts to supply some documentation for your belief system. I think you might concur that “nobody” saw nothing in 1983. The conjecture is that the perterbations of Pluto, Saturn and Neptune “suggest there is a planetary sized body that has caused these gravitational perterbations in the planets. I’m okay with that.
As for the “second coming” of Niburu since 1628 B.C, you should be aware of the book “Worlds in Collision” by Emmanual Velekovsky who says that it was Venus and not Niburu which caused the sun to stand still for a couple of days.
http://www.varchive.org/
http://www.varchive.org/ce/cosmos.htm (written shortly after Velikovsky moved from Israel to America
June 30, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Greenhouses that raise the level of carbon dioxide from 381 ppm to 1,000 ppm have yields 4 fold greater than those without added carbon dioxide. I suggest you listen to the research on global warming at http://www.infowars.com for today’s program which repeats all day.
This research points out that carbon dioxide is at it’s lowest levels in 300 million years. One has to wonder who is prepping this planet to have low sun, low carbon dioxide and high metals in the atmosphere. Doesn’t seem to matter how life got here. It’s not going to survive these changes.
June 30, 2009 at 2:58 pm
What we have here today, has been described above.. by others. I have my own words for it: It looks like ” Lumpy Cream of Wheat”, and ripples.
Below this fake mess.. is the Ocean Overcast, that will burn off w.in the hour, yet the cream of wheat will remain. It’s doing the opposite here.. as to Uschi’s place.. it keeps us totally dry. Already terrible watershortage.. and ” they” are trying to get doubl